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    Posted: 28-February-2008 at 13:24

This doesn't look good.......

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=17672

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Might as well give up.

2k a year road tax.

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trying to bring in a congestion charge in Dublin when the public transport is sh!te

VRT is gonna cost me 6k

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from http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/motors/2008/0227/1203619480 467.html
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Privatised cameras get the go ahead

Funding for the provision of privatised speed cameras was finally approved by Cabinet yesterday. The long-awaited decision will see a private firm provide 6,000 hours of speed camera enforcement a month, writes David Labanyi .

This will result in a significant increase in speeding enforcement. Last year 198,820 motorists were caught for the offence.

The cameras will be moved around approximately 600 roads and junctions identified by gardaí as being "prone to collisions". Decisions on when and where to site a camera will be taken by gardaí.

Asked when the cameras would begin operation, a spokesman for the Department of Justice said: "As early as possible this year. Until the contract is concluded we cannot confirm a date."

The Road Safety Strategy had set a target of June for having the cameras in place.

Concern over the expected cost of the project emerged late last year. Initial Government estimates put costs in the region of €5 million per annum but these proved to be significantly below the tender estimates that put annual costs closer to €25 million per annum.

The higher than expected figures prompted the Department of Justice to review the project, resulting in a delay which drew an angry response from the chairman of the Road Safety Authority Gay Byrne, among others.

Yesterday, however, the Cabinet agreed to proceed with the "outsourcing of a countrywide safety camera network, in line with the Road Safety Strategy".

The Department of Justice said in a statement it would contact the preferred bidder with a view to starting contract negotiations.

Any additional funds required for the project will be provided through a supplementary estimate.

Neither the Minister for Justice Brian Lenihan nor the Minister for Transport Noel Dempsey made a comment on the matter last night. A spokesman for the RSA declined to comment until the Authority was provided with more information.

A speed camera working group estimated that the revenue accruing to the Exchequer from speed cameras will be about €70 million.

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I think the most important line in that article is the last one!
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© 2008 The Irish Times

this one??
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yeah!
Not the one about the new system reaping €70 million per annum!
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Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

yeah!
Not the one about the new system reaping €70 million per annum!

At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.


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"The cameras will be moved around approximately 600 roads and junctions identified by gardaí as being "prone to collisions". Decisions on when and where to site a camera will be taken by gardaí."

 

May I suggest that whenever anyone sees one of these new cameras, you use a camera or cameraphone to take a picture of it, and note where and when you saw it.  Then send the picture and the details to each of your local TDs, as well as to the minister of justice, asking for details of at least 3 collisions at that spot in the previous 2 years, and see what the response is.
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their just out to get us ... bleed us dry!!!
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Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

yeah!
Not the one about the new system reaping €70 million per annum!

doh
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"A speed camera working group estimated that the revenue accruing to the Exchequer from speed cameras will be about €70 million."

So that will easily pay to fill in all the potholes

Now, before you all start to laugh, think about it.......

fill in all the pot-holes....

smooths out the road....

increases the average speed....

= more speeders = more money.

See! Logic at it's best

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Revenue collecting in disguise of safety-awareness; I can already see speed-cameras up and down the nation's dual-carriageways and motorways.

The figures from Britain on the effectiveness of speed-cameras in reducing road fatalities is inconclusive to say the least. An expected reduction of 20% is ridiculously optimistic.
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Mmm, it says nothing about saving lives or preventing road deaths.

It does mention "junctions identified by gardaí as being "prone to collisions"", so it's save to assume now that we have loads of cameras to take pictures of collisions.

Maybe they should use that €70 million in "revenue"(easy money), to vet the gobsh*tes who know very little about actual driving or of "the rules of the road".



The funniest line in that extract has to be this one...
"Last year 198,820 motorists were caught for the offence", note the word caught. 

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I would have no problem in destroying these scameras; it is grossly unfair that the people who pay the most to use the roads are being penalised the most. So the next question is, what would be most effective?

-Expanding foam?
-Hammer & chisel?
-Spray painting the lens?
-Setting them on fire?
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Originally posted by Daveco Daveco wrote:

I would have no problem in destroying these scameras; it is grossly unfair that the people who pay the most to use the roads are being penalised the most. So the next question is, what would be most effective?

-Expanding foam?
-Hammer & chisel?
-Spray painting the lens?
-Setting them on fire?


Dont be like the guy in Holland who was caught on camera busting one because he was done so many times.
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Originally posted by larzyh larzyh wrote:

Revenue collecting in disguise of safety-awareness; I can already see speed-cameras up and down the nation's dual-carriageways and motorways.

The figures from Britain on the effectiveness of speed-cameras in reducing road fatalities is inconclusive to say the least. An expected reduction of 20% is ridiculously optimistic.

Hit the road from porthsmouth to holyhead, along a 4 mile stretch I counted about 8/10 cameras
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Wasn't it Gordon Ramsey who cling-filmed a camera, so that the "damage" wasn't obvious to a casual glance?
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Originally posted by Daveco Daveco wrote:

I would have no problem in destroying these scameras; it is grossly unfair that the people who pay the most to use the roads are being penalised the most. So the next question is, what would be most effective?

Expanding foam

 

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We can learn a lot from the UK on this matter

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/welcome.htm

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Originally posted by The blue bullet The blue bullet wrote:

We can learn a lot from the UK on this matter

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/welcome.htm

Incidentally Captain Gatso drives a M3. bless you sir.

Thanks good link very informative.

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