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bucko68 
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Hi guys can anyone tell me what the emissions for a 2001 530d are ? in the form of grams/km, Thanks .
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kbannon
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Posted: 28-March-2008 at 21:44 |
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Planning on importing one to Ireland after the new VRT rules kick in on July 1st?
According to parkers.co.uk its either 189g/km or 221g/km depending on whether its the 184 or 193 bhp model. According to fastsaloons.com its 172g/km. Still, its whats on the licencing certificate that counts! Edited by kbannon |
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T.J.
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Posted: 28-March-2008 at 22:22 |
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My E39 owners handbook gives the CO2 emissions for all the E39 range at the time of printing (mine is a 1997 model). Anyone have a 2001 handbook? |
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DecMcD
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Posted: 29-March-2008 at 21:27 |
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Figures from a 2001 owners handbook are 189g/km for the manual saloon and 221g/km for the automatic. The crrisponding figures for the Touring are 194g/km and 226g/km. There is no difference in the emission figures for the 184BHP and 192BHP models. I was under the impression that imports from July onwards will now continue to be assesed for VRT and road tax under the current engine capacity system ? Dec. |
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kbannon
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Posted: 29-March-2008 at 21:36 |
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Imports after july will be subject to the new VRT bands but the old motor tax bands. Our green minister did a U turn on the motor tax but he has no jurisdiction over the VRT rates.
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bucko68
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Posted: 29-March-2008 at 22:28 |
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Thanks Guys, so a 530d 2001 model brought in after July, will still be taxed at the old rate, which is 1200 or 1300 euro a year, i thought it would be only €600 to tax, after reading a thread on Boards.ie. a relative of mine was thinking of importing one, but if the tax is still at the old rate, he might not.
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mbbaz
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Posted: 31-March-2008 at 10:38 |
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So does that mean Cat G cars will be 1500 not the 2k that was proposed?
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denishogan
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Posted: 31-March-2008 at 19:22 |
Really? When did this happen??  I was hoping to bring in a 530d myself. I wouldn't be able to justify it if the new tax bands don't apply to imports.Can't find anything on Google. Any idea where I get more info Killian? |
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Posted: 31-March-2008 at 23:15 |
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Thanks for that Dec.
What a scam - totally ripping off people with slightly older cars that have decent CO2 output. No better than common thieves. As if it wasn't bad enough, they went and put the price of tax up and effectively killed the resale value of my car. In protest, I'm going to have to keep my five, start running it on a vegatable oil mix and drive everywhere flat in third to get some value for the stupid amount of money I now have to pay on "old car" tax. By doing so, I should save a few cent on fuel to go towards the tax bill AND output the amount of CO2 that I am now paying for.  Alternatively, to save me the hassle of the above, the government should provide an "opt-in" scheme for people that want to move to the new tax scheme, provided they have the CO2 output of their cars measured. Sorry about the rant/hijack... |
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Posted: 01-April-2008 at 14:50 |
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Thieving Gits is right. I had thought of bringing in a 530d also and giving up the commercial jeep as for the extra seats the extra tax over the 270 a year in the jeep would be well worth it. Not the case now. However, it does have a few positive points, it means anything exotic i.e. an E36 M3 will be still taxed on the old system, not that thats great "value for money" either!
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Posted: 12-April-2008 at 17:31 |
No longer the case Ben. Have a look at the SIMI guide to the new VRT and Tax rates... "Imported cars first registered in previous country before the 1st January 2008 will be Road Taxed at current rates except those with emissions more over 225g/km which will be taxed on a CO2 basis (currently €2,000)." This means that (mainly in terms of road tax) there is little or no value to be had at all by importing a used car - regardless of emissions. |
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Posted: 13-April-2008 at 23:48 |
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Spotted that. Not sure though what that notion is based on. I haven't been able to find any other reference to this change. What was originally published in December and the changes announced in Feb to allow buyers of cars in 2008 up to June to choose the basis for their roadtax at the first renewal are the only official statements that I can find. Might just be the SIMI blowing smoke to confuse matters, unless others can find official announcements on it? |
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Posted: 14-April-2008 at 14:20 |
Was searching for this too over the weekend Diarmuid, I cannot find anything. SIMI is not much more than a lobbyist group for concerned dealers in my mind anyway, anything they tend to publish is pretty much spin. Does anybody anywhere have connections to dept environment to clarify on the 225g/km situation ? |
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denishogan
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Posted: 14-April-2008 at 15:52 |
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Just called the DOE and asked what the situation was with two different people owning the same car (same emissions) one 07 and the other 08 (I imagine these people would be the hardest hit when it comes to the likes of a 530d). The bottom line is "tough" - they had to pick a date.
The official reason for the u-turn is because there was a lot of debate about the situation and the general consensus was that allowing imports to be taxed at the new rates would "kill" the Irish used car market. The nice lady in the DOE did point out that there are savings to be made on the VRT (probably only to make me feel better). Unfortunately this means nothing because when you tax your car for the first time, the difference in tax will more than swallow up your 6% VRT saving on an E39 530d. I didn't get to ask about the 225g/km situation. The call was frustrating enough. Maybe one of you can call them on 01 888 2000 and let us know what the situation is. Edited by denishogan |
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Posted: 15-April-2008 at 13:44 |
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So does this mean if in theory if I was to import an E46 M3/Clio V6/Mazda RX8, as they produce >280g/km I'll be taxed €2k pa rather than €1.4k pa?
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Posted: 15-April-2008 at 14:03 |
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Nope because it was previously registered. The VRT would be at the new rate though.
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Just called the DOE again - according to them, cars registered before 2008 with over 225 g/km will be taxed at the old rate. Not the new rate as described by SIMI in that document I linked to above.
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Posted: 15-April-2008 at 14:53 |
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I wouldn't pay much heed to the SIMI tbh! Its not in their interest to keep the public up-to-date on importing cars!
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Posted: 19-April-2008 at 22:06 |
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So for the likes of the E92 M3 and 997 GT2 registered in this country from Jan will face a hike in road tax due to the high CO2? I heard a lot of dealers givin the sales pitch earlier in the year on petrol cars - buy now before the new road tax comes in.. if the tax is being back dated from Jan 08 cars then so much for that lark. |
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