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    Posted: 03-April-2008 at 13:47

BMW Sauber

 

Ferrari

 

Force India

 

Honda

 

McLaren  

 

Red Bull Racing

 

Renault

 

Super Aguri

 

Toro Rosso

 

Toyota

 

Williams

 

 

Above is an alphabetical list of the current F1 teams.  But what were they known as previously?  And before that? And before that too?

 

Copy and paste, or whatever, what's there now and add what you know. i.e.

 

BMW Sauber (2006); Sauber (founded 1993).

 

Ferrari

 

Force India

 

Honda

 

McLaren  

 

Red Bull Racing

 

Renault

 

Super Aguri

 

Toro Rosso

 

Toyota

 

Williams

 

 

And so on until we have them all when they were 'founded' in F1.

 

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i'll start you off - from my nerdy brain

 

BMW Sauber (2006); Sauber (founded 1993).

 

Ferrari - has always been Ferrari (as in Enzo)

 

Force India

 

Honda > BAT > Tyrell (as in Ken)

 

McLaren  - has always been McLaren (as in Bruce)

 

Red Bull Racing

 

Renault > Benetton > Toleman

 

Super Aguri

 

Toro Rosso

 

Toyota 

 

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Force India used to be Spyker which was Arrows which was Jordon?

Wasn't Toro Rosso Stewart Ford? or was it Red Bull that was Stewart Ford?

 



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BMW Sauber (2006); Sauber (founded 1993).

 

Ferrari - has always been Ferrari (as in Enzo)

 

Force India < Spyker F1 < Midland F1 < Jordan Grand Prix (under Ford, Yamaha, Hart, Peugeot, Mugen Honda, Honda , Ford, Cosworth, Toyota)

 

Honda > BAT > Tyrell (as in Ken)

 

McLaren  - has always been McLaren (as in Bruce)

 

Red Bull Racing

 

Renault > Benetton > Toleman

 

Super Aguri

 

Toro Rosso

 

Toyota 

 

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So where does Jaguar come into it then? Under Ford or what?
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Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

So where does Jaguar come into it then? Under Ford or what?

Didn't Jaguar turn into Stewart Ford........ this is all getting confusing.........

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Red Bull Racing - bought Jaguar F1 in November 2004 (last minute buy before closure deadline)

so where/who is Minardi?
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Where do Arrows fit in?

And Ligier?


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Originally posted by Sporty1 Sporty1 wrote:

Force India used to be Spyker which was Arrows which was Jordon?

Arrows was never Jordon - it was formed by a "breakaway team" from Shadow (The five founding members were Italian financier Franco Ambrosio (A), Alan Rees (R), Jackie Oliver (O), Dave Wass (W) & Tony Southgate (S))

Their first car FA/1 was a straight copy of the Shadows DN9
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Arrows sort of became Minardi....... which then went on to become Super Aguri F1.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrows

 

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And Ligier?

Ligier became Prost in 1997 which became bankrupt in 2002.

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I second that motion..

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Originally posted by Sporty1 Sporty1 wrote:

Arrows sort of became Minardi....... which then went on to become Super Aguri F1.

No, wrong on both counts  

Arrows went into liquidation at the end of 2002 (after going through its Arrows>Footwork>TWR-F1>Arrows phase ) but some of its assets (but not the name) were bought by Paul Stoddart who had bought Minardi from Giancarlo Minardi - who formed the team in 1979.

Minardi was sold to Red Bull, who renamed it Scuderia Toro Rosso.

 
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Williams - has always been Williams (as in Frank) < Toyota < Williams Cosworth < BMW Williams F1 < Williams Mecachrome < Williams Renault  < Williams Judd < Williams Honda < Williams Ford

Yes KB, I take your point, but those are only engine changes, and McLaren have gone through a few of those as well

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Originally posted by Sporty1 Sporty1 wrote:

Arrows sort of became Minardi....... which then went on to become Super Aguri F1.

No, wrong on both counts  

Arrows went into liquidation at the end of 2002 (after going through its Arrows>Footwork>TWR-F1>Arrows phase ) but some of its assets (but not the name) were bought by Paul Stoddart who had bought Minardi from Giancarlo Minardi - who formed the team in 1979.

Minardi was sold to Red Bull, who renamed it Scuderia Toro Rosso.

 

Which is why I said it sort of became Minardi.......

Dietrich Mateschitz/Mr Red Bull and Gerhard Berger I would guess as they are 50/50 owners. 

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No one's spotted the easiest one.

Toyota F1 = Toyota ...... but can trace it's roots in motorsport back to 1957

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Ferrari - has always been Ferrari (as in Enzo)

Technically Enzo first went racing with Alfa Romeo's, so could be argued that Alfa Romeo turned in to Ferrari, as far a racing was concerned, anyway. Although they raced under the Scuderia Ferrari name.



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Don't blame me - I quoted Pitsy!

Sorry KB... linked the wrong post.



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