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    Posted: 24-November-2003 at 08:15
I have had sooo much trouble now with Euro car parts that it amazes me. To give you a list, within the last two years I have gone through the following parts that were bought from Euro (e30);
rear shock mounts in 1.5 years (boxed as Febi/Bilstein)
1 x rear diff mount in 1.5 years (no label)
4 x Bilstein gas shocks

The real shock were the Bilsteins - surely gas versions should last longer than 2 years? I have now replaced with Koni, and have changed all the other bits to genuine BMW. Also, I seem to get through Euro car parts Bosch wiper blades every 6 months?

Anybody else had similar problems? Did anybody see the program about a year ago where German and Swedish were caught having fake parts manufactured in Turkey?

Any replies welcome - good for all to know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-November-2003 at 09:47

To be honest, I would steer clear of places like Euro car parts. I tend to get genuine BMW parts or sometimes I get bits from my local motor factors, who I have used for years and trust. To be honest I would rather go to Halfords than any of these so called speciallist parts suppliers. I just don't trust them after seeing the program you mentioned.

 

  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-November-2003 at 12:07
I was going to order a new set of Sachs/Boge shocks from German & Swedish Car parts this week. Are you saying even branded stuff like this could be fake?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-November-2003 at 12:38
I have used ECP & G&S and have never had any problems with the quality of the goods. They are often the same parts as main dealers (e.g. Sachs or Bosch or whatever).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-November-2003 at 12:49
My main problem was with the shocks. They were black Bilstein gas models and I just could not believe that under 2 years saw the end of them. No shocks would die that quickly, and the car was only 35mm lower. To make it worse, Bilstein also sell those particular shocks in a budget lowering kit!!

My brother bought Lemforder (original equipment) balljoints for the wishbones on his E36. They were pressed in by a professional outfit yet, after 6 months, the balljoints failed the MOT!!! How can that be? Euro car parts again.

I have also purchased an idle control valve (Bosch) which has a different part number to the one I took off and tends to drop idle speed to around 500rpm and then stabilise after. This is worse with electrical load on.

I cannot believe that I am running a Lemforder cambelt and Febi Tensioner. I have booked in with my local specialist to change to BMW components.

I'm not saying that the parts are counterfeit, but that maybe its wiser to buy genuine BMW in the long run.

P.s- My specialist says he wouldn't use anything from Euro.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-November-2003 at 14:36
I bought a Water Pump from Euro's which fitted ok, however couldn't get hot air from heater at idle only when increasing the revs............however after getting the hump with trying to get rid of what i thought was an air lock i went and bought a genuine BMW part........I removed the Euro one and it had started to score the inside of the opening, when i measured the two Water Pumps together the Euro one was slightly longer looked as if the impeller had not been fitted on properly.........from now on BMW parts for me!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-November-2003 at 17:03

I bought new rear brake drums and shoes from ECP (the OEM ones, not the so-called "quality alternatives") and they seemed prety high quality. Having said that, they're not exactly very complex parts!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-November-2003 at 17:34
I have used ECP for years with no problems, but for some parts, (especially for an E28) the local BMW dealer is only slightly more expensive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-November-2003 at 21:41
Originally posted by kevin_1990_316i kevin_1990_316i wrote:

I was going to order a new set of Sachs/Boge shocks from German & Swedish Car parts this week. Are you saying even branded stuff like this could be fake?


I have never bought from Euro Parts, so can't comment on them.

BUT I have bought loads of stuff for my E30 325i from GS&F - brake discs, drums, pads, exhaust, starter motor, etc, etc, and have NEVER had a complaint.

Perhaps it's because I know a guy that works there that lives near me so I get personal service but I don't think so.

I'd recommend them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-November-2003 at 20:18

I use Euro Car parts for all my 318is parts and so does my father for his E280 Merc.

We have never had any problems with their products and between us we have had brakes/suspension/starters/alternators all these have been fitted and run with no probs as if new.

These have included brands such as Bosch (starter) / Bilstein (rear gas shocks) / ATE (brakes) and various others.

Whether its just bad luck i don't know but no probs here.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-November-2003 at 07:46
To top it off, I forgot that I recently bought a fuel pump for my E30 320 from Euro. It was genuine BMW, in the box and made in Czech Republic? I fitted the pump and noticed a whining sound from it - I had it checked from my BMW specialist friend and he said the pump was dodgy, so I returned it and got a full refund. Surely all these instances cant be circumstantial?

Nice people though, and I know a guy who works in one so I get a great discount.

P.S - Oh, and he said dont try their recon airflow meters because they are rubbish and are always given back!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-November-2003 at 12:47
I replaced all suspension inserts with gas ones from Euro, 325i convertible Bilstein gas. Seemed ok at first with 4 passengers and a bootfull of luggage. Had to replace them after only 18 mths as the rear inner arches caught the tyres with only 1 rear passenger and no luggage. They were very worn and sloppy. I've had other parts though with no problems.
Buy original BMW is the only way for quality parts with peace of mind.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-November-2003 at 13:14
Bilstein's should have a lifetime warrenty. Suspension sag is a generally a spring problem.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-November-2003 at 23:51
ive  used gsf and euro  for years  and ive only ever had one problem part and that was a centre propshaft  bearing/mounting type thingy that broke after a couple of weeks  but apart from that ive never had a complaint .    and my list includes : shocks springs waterpumps brakes exhausts gaskets bearings steering-joints  etc etc etc etc  the list goes on and will for years to come .
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e30 325i
e30 325 sport
e30 318 touring
e28 m5
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e34 m5
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e36 318ti (green)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2003 at 16:44
I've never had any probs either, been going to ECP for years. As long as you avoid the cheap sh*t you'll be okay. Textar brake pads are EXACTLY the same as what comes in BMW boxes.
Black Bilstein shocks are okay, but they don't like the 35 mm lowering springs and shouldn't be sold with the kit = that's ECP's fault. The springs are too stiff for the black ones (they are oil, not gas) so you need either the blue ones or best of all, the proper yellow ones.
The recon air flow meters are junk, and so are their lowering springs. For cam belts, oil filters etc I'd use BMW. For brakes, air filters, spark plugs, I use ECP (Ate discs and Textar pads).
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