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215m3 
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Joined: 10-May-2003 Location: Bathgate Status: Offline Points: 2118 |
 Topic: Front Fog LightsPosted: 02-December-2003 at 15:51 |
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Why do silly people drive aroung with their front fog lights on(except for when it's foggy)? How often does visibility get doen to below a 100m these days? If you can see the tail lights of thr car in front then he can see you.
There should be points added to your licence and not just a fine. Basically their all a bunch of silly people For the thick ones out there driving lights come on with the full beam and not a separate button. What they fail to realise is hot glass is more brittle and there not cheap to replace. Got that off my chest edited to remove 'objectionable language' - please follow the guidelines Edited by Webdunk |
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Webdunk
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M3 GT Register Joined: 16-October-2002 Location: Central Scotland Status: Offline Points: 5245 |
Posted: 02-December-2003 at 16:39 |
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Toby... is something bothering you?
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215m3
Really Senior Member II
Joined: 10-May-2003 Location: Bathgate Status: Offline Points: 2118 |
Posted: 02-December-2003 at 20:39 |
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No......... just the silly people who drive with their fogs on. Just wondered what other people thought.
edited to remove 'objectionable language' - please follow the guidelines Edited by Webdunk |
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Nigel
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Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 02-December-2003 at 21:38 |
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It bothers me too, but not as much as it does you
Down here good old plod has been handing out £20 fines for it, doesnt seem to be bothering most of them though !!! |
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kbannon
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E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 03-December-2003 at 00:46 |
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LOL
come to Ireland where even the police do it! |
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Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
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Webdunk
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M3 GT Register Joined: 16-October-2002 Location: Central Scotland Status: Offline Points: 5245 |
Posted: 03-December-2003 at 08:53 |
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Accepting the general silliness and indubitable illegality of it...
...I think the problem is that there's nothing cooler than an angel-eyed E39 with just the rings and the fogs on 
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STEVE328
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Club member, North East Region Joined: 25-June-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 304 |
Posted: 03-December-2003 at 18:15 |
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Or E36!
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Ascotgrun
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Joined: 12-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 66 |
Posted: 06-December-2003 at 09:50 |
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Only the rear fogs bother me. I find that the front fogs are no brighter than the regular dipped beam and point down anyway.
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Nigel
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Posted: 06-December-2003 at 18:51 |
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Ascotrun I find the fog lights on our E34s to be the most useless I've ever come across ! But I do disagree with you over front fogs, most of them are pointing so high I find them quite offensive, but my wife says I get more like Victor Meldrew by the day !! Also on my list of hates are blue washer jets, blue lights behind the grill, blue valve caps, and all those silly neon type lights the kids seem to put under thier cars in an array of colours.
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sailorbaz
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(Former) Scottish Region Wean Joined: 02-August-2003 Location: Northern Ireland Status: Offline Points: 961 |
Posted: 06-December-2003 at 22:50 |
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Or the really wee stainless steel effect beesting aerials?
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215m3
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Joined: 10-May-2003 Location: Bathgate Status: Offline Points: 2118 |
Posted: 08-December-2003 at 12:23 |
I saw an astra the other day with under car neons. Why would anyone want to highlight or attract attention to an ASTRA, pile of u now what. Under any car they are just awful. I fine a lot of front fog lights are brighter than the main beam as they are needed when the visibility is very poor. |
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Eamo
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Posted: 08-December-2003 at 13:16 |
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I dont mind the front ones - its the rear ones that annoy me.
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STEVE328
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Club member, North East Region Joined: 25-June-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 304 |
Posted: 08-December-2003 at 18:24 |
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It's the daft old biddies in their Rover 100's that tootle about for months after any sign of fog STILL with their rear fogs on.
I think it is really dangerous when following a car with rear fogs on in dark,wet weather.You just don't notice the brake lights for getting blinded by the fogs. Why they never made them to cancel when you turned your lights off is beyond me..... |
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Badger 540
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Joined: 23-October-2003 Location: West Midlands Status: Offline Points: 451 |
Posted: 08-December-2003 at 20:25 |
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I must say Nigel "I Simply Don't Believe It!!" I think I'm turning into a Victor Meldrew as well. I ocassionally use public transport (damn Birmingham buses don't you know) if I'm on a a shorter day and want to pop into town after work. It makes you appreciate the convenience and enjoyment of driving a BMW and of course what it would be like without a licence... Anyway, I digress, while standing at a cold bus stop a few weeks back and getting really bored, I noticed the number of people not wearing seatbelts. I started counting them (sad or what ??) by the time the bus arrived I had got upto 65. I continued counting while on the bus (said I was sad didn't I ?) and packed up when I got to 100. The deliberate breaking of the law goes un-noticed most of the time as the police can't be bothered. Pity the tax payer has to cough up millions to support the health service. How much of this goes into repairing people's faces after they've been through the windscreen. Fog lights on all the time are annoying, but you can always try out your main beam for a couple of seconds to give them a clue. Andy of Birmingham (aka 39 year Boring Old Fart !!) |
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Badger540 West Midlands
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Wonkydog
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Joined: 29-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 196 |
Posted: 10-December-2003 at 22:11 |
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Well now, what about mobile phones? mind you I've seen a bus driver with his head in his hands while he steered with his elbows!(Reading to Newbury run) Honest! Took the registration but the bus company's phone was engaged for ages, perhaps everyone saw him.
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Nigel
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Posted: 12-December-2003 at 00:15 |
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Badger Ahh you take me back !! Birmingham buses. I was born and brought up in good old brum, jasper carrott for president etc. My kids dont believe me that years ago, hundreds of years ago according to them, that I used to catch buses all around brum rather than bother with the car when going into the city, and of course the local trains. I live in Worcester now, have done for years, and I constantly laugh at the local council trying to achieve what we had 30 years ago. Is the transport system still as good ? |
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Nigel |
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Badger 540
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Joined: 23-October-2003 Location: West Midlands Status: Offline Points: 451 |
Posted: 12-December-2003 at 23:13 |
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Unfortunately the transport system in Birmingham seems to have gone downhill in the 19 years I have worked in Edgbaston. Now they've put a bus lane down a particular dual carriageway (7am -7pm 7 days a week), more cars are taking to the backroads to avoid sitting in a jam. The one bus that actually uses this bus lane doesn't run by me, so I end up in the same old traffic as everyone else on the backroads sitting on a bus. Ironically it now takes 15 minutes longer to get to work by bus since the bus lanes were introduced . As I said, makes you appreciate having the Beemer when you've sat for 90 minutes on buses; a journey you could complete in about 35 minutes by car. No contest really !! Andy 540i Sutton Coldfield |
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Badger540 West Midlands
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Nigel
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Posted: 13-December-2003 at 15:20 |
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Isnt that just typical !! I think that is happening all over the country. More bus lanes = slower buses More speed cameras = more accidents But as good old John Presott was once telling us (with referance to the M4 bus lane) "the slower you go, the faster you get there" ! To quote good old Wogan " IS IT ME " !!! |
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thepits
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Posted: 15-December-2003 at 20:57 |
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OK - I want to put my two pennith(?) worth in here
Its not "cool" to drive with just parking (misnamed by many as "side") lights and fog-lights on, it's Stupid! - to digress, why did BMW stop the dim/dip principle I had on my old E30 325? It was impossible to drive on parking lights with that! 
Even when it's foggy, why do people leave their front and/or rear fog lights on in traffic jams?? Or when crawling along nose to tail?? Use them when you are on your own, but turn them off when you aren't!
AND........why do people sit with their foot on the brake in jams / at traffic lights - especially with high level LED ones??
Mind you, at this time of the year a lot of people don't both to turn ANY lights on at all! So I suppose we should be grateful for the foglights at least? 
p.s. - I think the blue/green/yellow, washers/head/parking... lights are stupid as well - and illegal - but dear old PC Plod is too busy keeping up with the speed cameras to deal with them. OPPS! I feel another thread coming on.......... 
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Nigel
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Posted: 15-December-2003 at 22:31 |
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The pits You will be astounded to learn that all these lights, well I can say the washer jets for sure ARENT illegal. I have been doing my advanced driving stuff with the IAM (have my test next monday, so fingers crossed), whilst I have been doing this I recieve the associates newsletter/mag called drive. There was an article in this written by a serving traffic officer ( the police are heavily involved in this driving thing as all the examiners are either serving or ex traffic examiners), this chap decided to "do" one of these lads, and he couldnt find anything in his manuals, even with the help of his superiors to report this silly little wotsit for. I thought "white light to the front" but apparently not. I'm sure I remember years ago someone being done for illuminating a "red nose" for comic relief, but it must have something to do with where you actually mount these lights, and on the bonnet or under the car seems ok. |
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