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Hasso
Senior Member I Joined: 15-August-2007 Location: Kumla Sweden Status: Offline Points: 128 |
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No the hydralic unit is without problem I dont know any at all who have fail so far.. Its not difficult to take away the elektronicmodul from the hydralunit se pictures here, you can drive the car without the modul if you cover the hydralunit with plastic but you have no speedo or ABS breaks. http://www.autopower.se/mekartips/mekartips.asp?dokid=103 In Sweden we send the unit fore repair to USA, this have worked perfect most of the times. They are very good to deal with in some cases that the unit would not work people get there money back without problems, it have happend 2 or 3 times of all moduls we have send over. |
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fozzymandeus
Really Senior Member II Joined: 01-February-2006 Location: Sunny Rhyl Status: Offline Points: 607 |
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Well, if it helps, I installed my repaired unit today.
Now, for me, ABS and Brake pad wear lights extinguish as they should, but the DSC light stays on. Apologies if this is an attempt at a bit of a hijack but I have a question for anyone that knows... ...when I bought the car, the purchaser gave me a spare control module, telling me that he'd tried a swap over with another faulty unit from a 728i, and this was currently on the car. The unit in the box was allegedly the original unit, which I sent off for repair. Now I'm wondering whether I've actually repaired the unit from some guy's 728i, and my original unit is sitting unrepaired in the kitchen. What do you think? Also... if this is the case, how to I recode the repaired unit to match my car? They DO have the same part number. |
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Beating around the bush.
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Stuganderson
Advanced Newbie Joined: 05-June-2008 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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Thanks Hasso, you certainly know your way about the engine bay! I'll remove the module as soon as i can and get it sent away for refurbishment. Many thanks. |
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big pimpin
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It was me! Sorry guys, seem to be a bit late to this party! I had a similar problem, diagnostics pointed me to a sensor, replaced that, then I read about the ABS module, got it refurbed, took it to a main dealer, they couldn't pinpoint after several hours looking. In the end it was a broken wire! Full tale of woe and how to blow several hundred quid here: clicky |
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bmwcare
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Autologic & GT1 do it. Some controllers can be recoded using other equipment (Bosch etc.) Kind Regards, Eddie. |
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fozzymandeus
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Thanks - great to have such a quick response!
So it's quite easily doable. Maybe I'll be ok, or maybe I'll have a pig of a time finding the problem. Who knows. :) |
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pauliexjr
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Having a similar problem with my 535i at present. Garage reckon it's a dry solder joint in the ABS unit. Going off for refurbishment as we speak (substantially cheaper than a new replacement!). Doesn't actually affect the car, just wind up with Blackpool illuminations on the dash! |
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Stuganderson
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Hi again, I got a call from the place where i sent my Abs module off to today. They couldn't find any fault with my unit. The guy on the phone suggested it may be a wiring issue. I assume he meant the wires going into/out from the sensors?? I was so hoping i'd get the module back and i could re-install it and the problem would be solved. No such luck!!! |
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Andrew Rolland
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T'is not un heard off. See the thread Big pimpin mentioned. http://www.bavarian-board.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=41331&am p;KW=big+pimpin Will be tricky to find though. And will mibbie still cost you a few quid to sort out. Andrew |
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Stuganderson
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Hello again, Still haven't got these pesky lights to go out on my dash yet. I had the wheels off and had a look at the sensors for myself. Are they the black ones or the longer blue ones? I assume the are the blue ones as i don't have a black one on the front drivers side. I've had a sensor replaced on the front offside (passenger?) but if it is the blue one it didn't look anything like new!! it was really dirty and when i opened it up there was a little water inside and also small bits of dirt. I cleaned it out and got all the wheels back on but......you guessed it, the bloody lights are still on!! |
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fozzymandeus
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Tangential, but potentially useful, I've now solved my problem.
My ABS unit was cooked, so I sent what I thought was the original one to be repaired, putting what I thought was a 728i unit (also cooked) in instead. It turns out I repaired the 728i unit, so when I replaced it, it was from a different car. Also turns out that the difference between the units, software wise, is virtually nil. ABS started to work right out of the box. All that needed to be done to fix the DSC light was to have the unit recoded with Autologic, to put the data for the steering angle calibration into the controller. This was duly done, and all is well from an Electronic standpoint. Now I just have to work out why I have rapid front o/s tyre wear. |
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Fergi
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Re Stuganderson It must be your ABS ECU, I had mine repaired at BBA for £125, never bothered changing any of the sensors, fault cured. BBA sent a letter back with my unit stating that wheel sensor faults can be thrown up even when they are all ok, ie: the fault is with the control unit. |
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Stuganderson
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I have already sent my ECU away and it got the all clear. I wish it had been faulty then i would now what the problem was!! Think this is the 8th or 9th week and i'm still no further forward. |
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Andrew Rolland
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Stuart, the abs sensors are fitted to the inside of the front hubs and are virtually at the centre of the hub. On the nearside front the sensor is located at the 9 o'clock position. The front sensor is mounted to the hub so that the shaft of the sensor is parallel to the line of the front axle. The nearside rear sensor is positioned at 7 o'clock and is mounted so the shaft of the sensor is positioned radially to the hub. Or is it 3 o'clock and 5 o'clock.... you know what I'm getting at. The wire is either black or grey, I think you must be confusing the brake pad wear sensor wire. Both wires are joined to their respective looms in the same box mounted on the inner wing. The brake wear sensors are only fitted to the nearside front and the offside rear wheels. Andrew |
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Stuganderson
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Thanks Andrew, as usual, you've been very helpfull.
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Johnny conway
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this just happened me last week. rev counter started hopping and then giving up and then shoot up again hopping away. the engine would give a couple of coughs. fuel guage was all over the place and the mpg guage did not work at all. after the engine would cough the brake pedal would go mental, abs and sensor lights would illuminate and then it would run ok. didnt like that coughing business. all this would happen every so often from startup. i replaced the ns rear sensor coz i knew that it was the only one which wasnt replaced recently. all ok since. it seems that when one sensor fails the rest are approaching failure like as if they are wired in series. if you end up replacing one at a time at the dealers, it becomes big bucks with labour and all each time in a relatively short space of time.may aswell replace all at the same time but getting back to rev counter problems there still could be intermitting failure on the ns rear sensor.
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Andrew Rolland
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I had both my front sensors on my E39 fail virtually exactly 1 year appart. My local garage did the diagnostics for me both times for free, cos I asked nicely and went in at the crack of dawn. John, sounds like your battery is on the way out. Andrew |
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Johnny conway
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had a peep at the battery Andrew - it is a (BMW) battery - could it be the original? - didn t see a date on it. the car is a 2000 model. i dont think the battery is supposed to last 9 years. come to think of it - ive noticed a brighter headlight beam when revd. Cheers j |
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Andrew Rolland
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Batteries mibbie last for 4 to 6 years? So your probably coming to the end of the life of the second one. Replacing a battery can cure a number of weird and wonderful electrical faults. Andrew |
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