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alzee101
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Hi Guys I bought aE60 520dmsport last year from the UK. First reg March 2008. It now has 12Kms on the clock and is nearly 1yr Old. My Question should I get an Oil change done or am I OK to go to the normal Oil change interval in the book. Also I need a new set of mats which the stealers wanted €160 for I managed to talk them down to €120 do you guys think this is a fair price or know any where to get Original ones cheaper. Thanks in advance for any posts back Alzee |
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larzyh
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If you are planning to keep the car for many years change oil more frequently if not stick to the service interval indicator. I bought my mats from the dealer; expensive but they are good quality and fit in the anchoring system in the floor. Well done beating them down to 120! |
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alzee101
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Do you think I should get an oil change done now as I will be keeping the car for another 3-4 yrs
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Personally, I'd go with interim oil changes on a diesel. Your car could head to 20k miles before it asks for a change, way too long in my opinion. Way too long in my opinion. If you do an interim change make sure to use genuine BMW filter and BMW approved/recommended oil to maintain the warranty. Keep invoices for the bits, just on case.
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Modern synthetic oils are extremely highly developed and will maintain viscosity for far longer than in the old days, hence the long service intervals. Maybe there's a case for changing the filter more frequently. I think it is pointless in your situation to do frequent oil changes. You are extremely unlikely to encounter any problems related to the frequency of oil changes in your time of driving the car. You might be doing the second or third owner a favour but you're unlikely to reap any benefit. I doubt it will make any difference to the second hand value of the car. I change my oil twice a year, about every 6000 miles but I bought it with 80.000 miles, it now has 116.000 and I plan to keep it a while longer. |
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larzyh
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OK, so it's not pointless to change oil frequently but I did say "in your situation", relating my answer to the original posters' question; if you buy a new car and keep it for three years (36000miles), it will make no difference to the reliability whether you change at 5000 or 200000 using modern synthetic oil. If on the other hand you buy a new car to keep for ten years or more then it might well be in your interest to change more frequently. I wish the previous owners of the cars I buy second-hand changed their oils every 5 minutes. |
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I would do interim oil changes. Personally, I think 20,000 mile service intervals are pushing the newer synthetic oils right up to their design limits. This is a marketing ploy by the manufacturers. 20,000 mile oil changes should be a limit not a target. Edited by Bayerische |
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You can be cynical about the long intervals (actually my car has never read anything higher than 15.000), but what would the benefit of frequent oil changes be to the original poster? The cars' ultimate longevity is probably improved but he is planning to keep it for 3-4 years. The oil is not going to stop lubricating at 20000 miles; it could probably go on for much longer without causing the first owner any problems, whatsoever. He can still have a "Full Service History", so there's little to lose there. He will be spending 100 euro a year in pursuit of a benefit that he is unlikely to reap. If the original poster is feeling that generous to the buyer of his car he could offer him 300 euro cash! |
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I agree, it will probably not benefit Alzee to do interim oil changes if he/she only plans to keep the car 3-4 years as premature engine wear will probably only manifest itself later in the cars life. The way the economy is shaping up perhaps he/she may end up keeping the car for considerably longer. I believe it prudent to spend a small amount of money on preventative maintenance to stop bigger problems down the line. If records are kept it can only help with the resale of the car to a private buyer. Some of the E60's (although I am not sure if the deisels were affected) were known to drink a wee drop of oil also. Edited by Bayerische |
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With BMW's record on turbo failures in their diesels (it may indeed have improved with the E60), I would much prefer more regular oil changes. The engine may not need the freshest oil, but the turbo certainly does. For the sake of what ? €100 then you may as well....
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alzee101
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Thanks lads I think I will spend the €100 and try and ward off any issues that may arise if I don't. Seems to me that to leave the same Oil sitting in the engine for more than 2yrs before changing it is a bit long so I will give the stealers a small dig out with my cash. as ever you guys are a great resource to have on hand thanks ps What did ye think about €120 for original floor mats good value or what (considering the quality of them as apposed to copies) thanks Alzee |
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I see Richie in AC Cars (who I would recommend using for servicing) is selling them for fifty quid!
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If you read the write ups on 2.0d engines a 10k mile service is recommended
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If you are doing a relatively low mileage you will "get away" with longer service intervals as you will have got rid of the car before you encounter any problems (most likely). However, if it were mine I'd do the following: Renew Oil & Filter every 10-12,000 miles When doing this you can adjust the CBS to display a shorter service interval to keep you reminded regarding the shorter interval. Renew Oil Separator every 3rd Oil change (30-36,000 miles) While in there renew the air filter Renew the fuel filter at least every 3rd Oil Change (there is no effective water trap in this model and the fuel is pumped under pressure through it...). Keep records (invoices, not service stamps) and it may help you to sell it on at a later stage... Kind Regards, Eddie. |
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Richie
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Excellent Advice Eddie...I'm guessin you've seen your fair share of blocked Oil Seperators and the damage they do.
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Thanks lads all information taken on board
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