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    Posted: 19-March-2011 at 09:16

Originally posted by leeyn leeyn wrote:

I've heard that they say thier dyno is the "heartbreaker" for real power outputs.....

Never, ever have said that. But I know other tuning centres that have.

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I've heard that they say thier dyno is the "heartbreaker" for real power outputs.....
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Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

That would have been your old car Simon! 

 

Quote Uh-oh, what have I let myself in for? :O
what indeed?

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Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

That would have been your old car Simon! 

 

Quote Uh-oh, what have I let myself in for? :O
what indeed?

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Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

Wow, I've just noticed this is an important topic!

Thanks moderators

no problem - of course it is -

 

now then, remind me...

whose E30 M3 was it that gave 176bhp after 20 years?

That would have been your old car Simon! 



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Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

Wow, I've just noticed this is an important topic!

Thanks moderators

no problem - of course it is -

 

now then, remind me...

whose E30 M3 was it that gave 176bhp after 20 years?

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Wow, I've just noticed this is an important topic!

Thanks moderators

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Originally posted by mboon mboon wrote:

OK a question for you guys, I have a E36 M3 Saloon 3.0 with a 5 speed manual box, if I went to any rolling road (not BMW specific) would there be anything they would have to do in order to get a reading? or would it go straight on, run up and be fine? Never took a car on the rollers and would like to know if using the one down the road at a tunners is not going to cause any problems to my car?

This depends on the dyno as opposed to them being BMW specific or not. On our Dastek I can run a 3ltr E36 M3 with just the front wheels chocked, whereas the Dyno Dynamics you would have to put the pull down contraption on the rear lower arms which if done up too tightly can give lower readings. Also, with rollers wider apart than thers will give less power at the wheels, but it the dyno carries out a coastdown, then this will be measured and cancelled out.

FWIW, I do the runs in 4th gear. Hope this helps.

Nick, I am not looking to stay on much longer than 2.30/3.00.

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Paul, what sort of time you having visitors till mate..ie when you off home?
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and a k8 2008 busa...faster still

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mboon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-April-2009 at 15:30
OK a question for you guys, I have a E36 M3 Saloon 3.0 with a 5 speed manual box, if I went to any rolling road (not BMW specific) would there be anything they would have to do in order to get a reading? or would it go straight on, run up and be fine? Never took a car on the rollers and would like to know if using the one down the road at a tunners is not going to cause any problems to my car?
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Originally posted by Hoover Hoover wrote:

keep me posted Paul, did you fit the cams. i would be interested in that as i can see that being doable without changing lots of other stuff particularly what we (you ) have already done mate.

Nick, I didn't fit the cams.. these were fitted by the owner and set to manufacturers settings with the dowel in place... apparently.

So, 222/223 bhp with AFM fitted. 239/240 bhp with CF airbox and Unichip

EDIT: I relied (stupidly) on the cars rev counter to calibrate the dyno roller speed to engine RPM. As the rev counter was 300-350 rpm out, the initial torque figure is inaccurate. But like for like, the torque figure ended up at 195 ftlbs. So there was around a 12-15 ftlbs increase. But with the dyno roller speed calibrated correctly, the torque is 181 ftlbs. Power remains the same. So before torque would have been around 166-169 ftlbs before the AFM was removed.

 



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Originally posted by UweM3 UweM3 wrote:

Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

some of the M' Powered cars need to be put into dyno mode, which can be tricky occassionally, but generally it's pretty easy to do.
especially on an E30 M3 - isn't that in "dyno-mode" all the time?


Certainly is

that depends largely on the operator.....
Some off them are in constant limp mode


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hoover Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-March-2009 at 20:21

keep me posted Paul, did you fit the cams. i would be interested in that as i can see that being doable without changing lots of other stuff particularly what we (you ) have already done mate.

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Originally posted by Hoover Hoover wrote:

oooh!  interested Paul.

 

what about the TBs tho mate, doesnt that mean new carbon?

The car in question has done upwards of 160k MILES, but is standard with exception of a Miltek exhaust, Schrick 284 inlet and Sport Evo 272 exhaust cam, with Miltek and makes 222/223 bhp and 183ftlbs before removing the AFM. It also has 49mm TBs fitted but to a standard head, so I didn't think this would make much, if anything difference.

But, I could be wrong, as the car only made 180/185bhp before that work albeit on a different dyno, I doubt the extra bhp was all down to the cams.

Will keep you posted with the results.

We would have to measure the airbox to see how it will measure upto the 49mm TB's as it may not be too far off? But the one fitted to the above car is a 48mm airbox which was not supplied by the usual route, not ideal, but we'll see how it ends up.  Also, there is less volume than the one you have.



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oooh!  interested Paul.

 

what about the TBs tho mate, doesnt that mean new carbon?

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Originally posted by Hoover Hoover wrote:

Mmmm..may not be a good thing for me, not sure how much harder i could push my hi miler

Nick, yours is much lower mileage in comaprison

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Mmmm..may not be a good thing for me, not sure how much harder i could push my hi miler
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LOL Uwe!!

Nick, would be great to see you again, I am in the middle of another conversion, same spec as your's except has cams too.... After dynoing it yesturday with the AFM still in place, when you see the results of that, you will WANT cams (oh and bigger TB's) lol

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Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

some of the M' Powered cars need to be put into dyno mode, which can be tricky occassionally, but generally it's pretty easy to do.
especially on an E30 M3 - isn't that in "dyno-mode" all the time?

Certainly is

mine deffo is..i might pop over Paul, if the arms upto it, let you know mid week

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