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    Posted: 24-December-2003 at 20:48
The 318is had Boge, Sachs and Bilsteins depending on the market and season.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2003 at 14:50
IMO
the 318is is a very nimble motor with a great turn of speed when the revs are kept up there, mine was standard except for a cat replacement box and was an extremely pleasureable car to drive. I think it would definately give a normal 325i a run for its money but stand very little chance on a 325i sport. I know the sport engine is the same as a normal 325i but the overall package, handling etc. feels so much different. The power is so much more useable in sport guise and I have found the 325i sport to be a great deal quicker than people make out. I found myself constantly surprising cars that were 'supposed' to be a lot quicker (2.5 boxster for example). Obviously some years ago, now i just take it easy in the auto.
My own opinion would be to buy a good sport instead.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-December-2003 at 22:30
318iS M Tech suspension.......BMW used to apply the M Tech label to various things, but it's not quite the same as the suspenders in a 325i Sport. The anti roll bars are the same and the springs are the same as an M3, but so is a 316i with optional M Tech susp. The M3 wasn't a hard riding car. 325i Sports used Bilsteins (as did any 6 cylinder E30 with factory M Tech susp), and these were the fat yellow ones with the 'concertina' dust covers and no external bump stop - the bump stop was built inside the damper. The 318iS used a Boge damper, same part no. as any other 4 cyl. E30 with M Tech susp.
170 bhp? Well, who knows? Maybe BMW strangled the thing to get the power down. I remember the racing 320i E36's which used a 2 litre M42 (well, S42) which did 280 bhp and proved to be more tuneable than the previous 2 litre S14.
By the way, I have a 318iS 4.1 LSD coming next year. £200, start saving!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-December-2003 at 12:41
A chip an a throttle body for uner £200!. It cost me over £200 just for a chip for a Ford I used to own, although this included a run on a rolling road. As I said before i'm still very sceptical! If this mod does make 170bhp, you might want to talk to BMW. I'm sure they would be very interested.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-December-2003 at 12:26
Guys... i've had some good responses .. and I think I have actually found a chip which could produce around 170ish bhp on the 318is... you would also need to change the throttle body.. and just make sure the car is in good nick before the mods... but all in all this could be costin under £200... these 325 racers better watch out... )
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-December-2003 at 16:27

http://www.e30zone.co.uk/

Keep an eye on the Tuning Zone section on the above link. It should be up and running soon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-December-2003 at 14:06
I have to agree with Peter on this one. I'd say the 318is could be made to get around 150-155bhp with reasonable mods but not much more.

Check this out:

http://www.esatclear.ie/~bpurcell/m42wow.jpg

This is a car in Germany getting about 180bhp.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-December-2003 at 10:01

I have to say that I am extremely sceptical that a chip ,even in conjuction with an enlarged throttle body will produce that kind of power increase. In order to do this the standard throttle body would have to be hugely restrictive. I would have thought that you would at least need a change the cams as well to ge thtat kind of power. I could be wrong however!

Also speedos are inacurate and normally always tell you  that you are going faster than you actually are. The inaccuracy gets greater as your speed increases. I once new a guy who said his 1.8Mk2 cavalier SRI would do 138mph, another bloke who said his 1.3 astra would do 122mph. I was also in a 1.3 maestro that was apparently doing 118 mph according to the speedo. If you look at most road tests run by magazines like Topgear and EVO  cars tend to be slightly slower than the manufactures quoted top speed, not faster. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-December-2003 at 09:49

kbannon - yes mate i realised a little later that it wasnt Brian but Brendan...

CeaserB - do we have any weblinks or info about this chip on the web ??

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-December-2003 at 09:12

The chip available from E30 Zone which has been proven to increase power from 139bhp on a standard 318iS to 170bhp was in conjunction with an enlarged throttle body. The rev limit is also raised by the chip to 7,000rpm.

There are rolling road graphs to confirm the results of the test car.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 19:11
probably, but thats just geeky (my way of saying i have no idea) i think the gearing would be the same but the LSD would be different
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 18:08

35+bhp CHIPS??

Can I have a bag full please?? oops sorry... 

Originally posted by falkster falkster wrote:

As far as I am aware there is no difference between the 325i and the sport both have 172bhp (If i remember correctly). The 152mph  that I got was out of my old 325ise.

Yep for sure, totally agree, same engine + same BHP but did some of the IS's not have revised gearing and a different LSD final ratio as well?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 17:27

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just for the record - if you are going to sing the praises of b318isp (B. Purcell) - the B is actually Brendan .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 17:22
Originally posted by dbanbery dbanbery wrote:

jonp my jokes are far worse, far far worse..

i prefer spicy flavour.... my 318 i crap in 1st too...

chris, doesnt setting off in second screw your clutch faster?

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Sounds stupid but 325s second was/are more like a first. If I set off in second in my M3 it would shaft the clutch.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 16:55

jonp my jokes are far worse, far far worse..

i prefer spicy flavour.... my 318 i crap in 1st too...

chris, doesnt setting off in second screw your clutch faster?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 16:30

Chips are good! They do increase power (slightly).. but driveability is vastly improved. I had a Alfa 155 16v which i chiped. reved to 7500rpm.

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Sorry.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 15:54

No worries... we need everyones feedback to see if half of these theories are possible or not... but that 170bhp chip could be something real... ill let you know...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 15:48
Originally posted by beema318is beema318is wrote:

O yeah... B Purcell's car does 0-60 in the low 8s... which is very reasonable... this could give a 325 something to remember...

I  also found some info on the E30Zone site about a new chip being checked out, costs around £175 and supposed to push 170bhp out of the engine... Im checkin that option out aswell...

Thats got to be total nonsense. No way can you get 35bhp from a chip unless its a turbo'd car.

You would usually expect about 10% from a new chip unless you get your ecu remapped and they will sort you a chip out that is specifically for your car but you still wont see that improvement.

If it works (which is highly unlikely) give me the number and I will get one for my M3. All those guys on trackdays that have spent £,000s on their engines and are pushing little more than 260bhp would be spitting blood.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 15:42

O yeah... B Purcell's car does 0-60 in the low 8s... which is very reasonable... this could give a 325 something to remember...

I  also found some info on the E30Zone site about a new chip being checked out, costs around £175 and supposed to push 170bhp out of the engine... Im checkin that option out aswell...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-December-2003 at 15:36
Originally posted by Madrab Madrab wrote:

falkster
I'm just running a 325i mate not an IS. Does your IS get over the 150 mph mark...ooer!!

 

As far as I am aware there is no difference between the 325i and the sport both have 172bhp (If i remember correctly). The 152mph  that I got was out of my old 325ise.

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