166 mph biker jailed

coupe king wrote: fluffnik wrote: coupe king wrote: Can you see pot holes / foxes / badgers etc on google maps? What about getting a blow out at 150+ MPH. The surface is good, foxes and badgers are nocturnal and blow-outs are very, very rare. Have you ever noticed how quickly pot holes can appear on a road? Dont be so pedantic about the nocturnal animals, there are plenty of other animals / birds that could make you crash that are out and about in the day time.

One of my mates does the ferry’s to Ireland and he got t**ted by a pheasant while going 60 mph, smashed through the screen an hit him square in the chest, he was nearly knocked right off the bike, I read all this is on Facebook just last week, I’ve also seen some awful stuff out here in Dubai and they were not doing 166mph (then again most of them are un-educated half wit’s (or pi55ed expats) who drive for 200 yards and pass their test), I do think that he was wrong, I have opened up my car on quiet roads, I feel that 12 months is a long time when there are more dangerous crim’s on the streets yadda yadda yadda, end of the day the man with the wig made an example of him and he’ll no do it again, sure no one on here will think about it any time soon either.

coupe king wrote: I dont see how anyone can defend doing 166mph on a UK road. Can you see pot holes / foxes / badgers etc on google maps?

Neither can I.

At the end of the day it matters not what you think about how good other road users observation should be. In this country we have limits and as such most people will not anticipate how fast you are covering ground. If we had derestricted autobahns then they wouldand they would be expecting cars/bikes to be going that fast, but we don't so they won't be. Whether this makes them in the wrong or not is irrelevant.

Being right isn't going to kake your family feel any better when you're laying on a slab.

Yes, roads without limits can work. If they work in germany they can work here. But it would require more than just removing the limits to make it work and driving on the roads now as if there are no limits is extremely foolish.

coupe king wrote: fluffnik wrote: Having fired up Google Earth and measured the distance between the farm road South of Thieves Road and the trees North of Dolphinton at only 1.2 miles - I'd guessed about 2miles fully sighted - I'd have to agree that T-boning risk is slightly more than zero. I still don't agree that 166mph of itself proves DD. I dont see how anyone can defend doing 166mph on a UK road.

Since 166-0 takes ~400m there are a good many times and places where 166mph need represent no increased risk to the innocent and only a marginally increased risk for the rider/driver.

If clear and in good conditions, the 1900m fully sighted straight on the A702 is potentially one such place.

coupe king wrote: Can you see pot holes / foxes / badgers etc on google maps? What about getting a blow out at 150+ MPH.

The surface is good, foxes and badgers are nocturnal and blow-outs are very, very rare.

coupe king wrote: I'm sure some of you would change your opinion on this matter if one of these clowns crashed in to / killed one of your loved ones because they couldnt slow down in time due to seriously excessive speed.

That excessive speed is more likely to be 30mph on a busy shopping street with parked cars on both sides than it is 160mph on an empty, well sighted and well surfaced road...

166mph in traffic is a different matter.

Peter Fenwick wrote: fluffnik wrote: You did not know that the road you were going to move into was clear and likely to remain so. Sorry mate but you're an idiot.

Peter Fenwick wrote: It was in no part my fault. In Germany on unrestricted autobahns people need to anticipate that other drivers may be travelling at very high speeds. However in this country no one in their right mind expects anyone to be going that fast.

Peter Fenwick wrote: If the next vehicle in the other lane is 1/2 mile back then based on the law in this country I think it is a fairly safe assumption that I have enough space to pull out. Given that it was a bike he was in effect a tiny dot in the distance.

Assuming it to be clear is not enough, you need to know.

Mirror, blind-spot, mirror before changing lanes should give you that knowledge.

Peter Fenwick wrote: I don't agree with arbitrary limits especially on motorways but given how stupid some people can be I understand why we have them.

We have far too much law...

Peter Fenwick wrote: As for the "We've all maxxed our car at some point" line, well yes I have but I've never got close to 166 mph (which will have been closer to an indicated 180mph) and when I did I felt far from safe. The car was an Accord Type-R and I hit an indicated 150mph which equated to the red line in 5th. To be honest it was a stupid thing to do and if i'd been caught it would have been indefenceable.

I've averaged more than 140mph over long distances on the Autobahn, including a fair bit of time in the low 160s, it's what my car was built to do and it makes driving to Sweden or Poland much less tedious.

Yes, you need a lot of space and you need to keep an eye out well ahead (and in your mirrors, not all M5s have limiters...) but it can be an entirely reasonable way to use a public road.

I once passed the Polizei at 150 with a smallish differential, the driver looked across, smiled, nodded and mouthed "schoen"...

muppet 2 wrote: fluffnik wrote: The road in question has no junctions or unsighted entries.The T-boning risk is zero. the road in question has one road junction two farms a cottage and entrance to fields .. that raises the T-bone risk

Having fired up Google Earth and measured the distance between the farm road South of Thieves Road and the trees North of Dolphinton at only 1.2 miles - I'd guessed about 2miles fully sighted - I'd have to agree that T-boning risk is slightly more than zero.

muppet 2 wrote: Germany has continually reduced its unrestricted roads and speed traps are right at the signs where limits are lowered.

muppet 2 wrote: But the bottom line is the government are attempting to make speeding socially unacceptable the way drink driving changed 20 or 30 years ago.. get used to it.

Lets be honest here, who hasn't opened up their car / bike when the road is safe and clear ??

Enough said.....

PS - My M3 limiter didn't kick at 155 on the M(autobahn)  not that i condone reckless or careless driving but IMHO its horses for courses as they say.........I can handle it....