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M3Nally 
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 Topic: E39 530d PerformancePosted: 10-May-2010 at 15:25 |
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MAC7,
I agree with Andrew, sounds like something wrong there, you should have it looked at. I had a turbo hose pop off, (mechanic didn't tighten it up properly after changing a thermostat) thought the thing had blown up, and it was really gutless. Maybe you have an airleak somewhere. If I boot it doing 60 there isn't much that will keep up with the diesel. I think mine has had a mild remap before I got it as it knocks out 208bhp and 353 lb/ft on a rolling road. It never feels slow, though is nowhere near nice sounding as the old 540i. |
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Andrew Rolland
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Posted: 10-May-2010 at 08:09 |
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Your oil burner would have much the same bhp as the E38 and crucially much more torque so it should be quicker and more responsive than the E38. Sounds like you have a problem as it should me more than a match for the 2.8i in your E38. It's also a smaller barge so power to weight ratio will be better on the E39. They should return over 40mpg on a good run. The 3.0 petrol E39 would eat the 3.0 diesel E39. The ones I have driven were indeed swift and could make progress quickly...if you could live with the noise, the smell and the fear of as you say detonating turbos and swirl flaps. |
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Posted: 07-May-2010 at 20:53 |
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I just sold my E38 728i Sport and bought a E39 530D. I thought I was going to see a huge jump up in performance & economy over the 7, enough to overcome the clackety sound of the diesel. What I was not prepared for was the lack of oomph compared to my 7 over 80mph. The big 7 wafted up to 138 on the Autobahn and the 5 seems slow & loud before the turbo has warmed up and seems flat when I push it a bit. had it up to 125 but it is nowhere near as rapid as my wifes 530i Sport E39. Once again I think I have "bought the wrong car" I also miss the sweet sound of the petrol. I used to have a E39 525i which i loved.
all this talk of detonating turbos and swirl flaps is making me worried. G Edited by MAC7 |
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Posted: 19-January-2010 at 19:27 |
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I've seen a few dogs too, but none that had wheels!
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Posted: 19-January-2010 at 11:38 |
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I've seen a few dogs of BMW's over the years fitting that description that weren't even diesel! Edited by Dergside |
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Posted: 19-January-2010 at 10:42 |
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Exactly, that's the whole point of a BMW, a lovely straight 6. Nice and smooth, quiet and powerful. Not lumpy, smelly and rattley! |
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Posted: 19-January-2010 at 10:02 |
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Ah, but then a 530i would also result in a big increase in tax then. As for servicing, i'd ring a few places and get some prices. I've seen a few manual 530ds around but I'm not sure I could buy a BMW and not have the lovely straight 6 sound that you get with a petrol engined car. |
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Posted: 19-January-2010 at 09:58 |
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The taxover here on pre-2008 cars is engine CC based! €935 for a 523i (2494cc) and €1,293 for a 530d (2998cc)
see here According to previous posts, diesels can cost more to service due to the heavier parts |
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Posted: 19-January-2010 at 09:55 |
A friend has a rangey TDV8, does sound rather decent. And I remember long ago being in an oldsmobile 5.7l diesel from the fuel crisis days, which made all sorts of interesting noises, but then those engines were desperately fragile so maybe it was just knackered! |
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Posted: 19-January-2010 at 09:50 |
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30% more tax for a diesel!! I'm not sure the servicing is that much more expensive though... |
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Posted: 19-January-2010 at 08:13 |
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Thank gawd for that! |
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I'm starting to dismiss the oil burner idea following this thread. I'd save money on fuel alright but with the extra 30% in motor tax and the extra in servicing it would negate any fuel benefit.
Also the change in sound may hurt my ears. |
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Posted: 18-January-2010 at 08:35 |
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What about a V8 diesel? That might be an acceptable way to go over to an oil burner, hmmmm. |
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Posted: 15-January-2010 at 19:17 |
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I do miss the V8, theres no doubt about it.
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Posted: 15-January-2010 at 19:04 |
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That's what technology does for you. It also means more to go wrong, more difficult to tell whats wrong, more expensive to fix, blah blah blah. But it's worth it purely for the V8! |
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Posted: 15-January-2010 at 16:51 |
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Andrew that is some improvement with the same engine!
I got average of 26 mpg on my auto E39 540 over 18k miles before I swapped for the oil burner. |
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Indeed, things have moved on. My E34 540i Touring (M60 4.0) gives 27 on a run, 25 average over 20k miles of weekend trips and not much else, and I try not to think about it in town!...
On the subject of towing, my old disco used to do 25-28mpg no matter what. One week I used a tank of diesel running around town - 28mpg - and then towed a car trailer down to Cambridge from Edinburgh - 28mpg - and hauled an MGF back up - 28mpg! I guess the bungalow aerodynamics and mass make minor excrescences insignificant! Edited by jetsetwilly2000 |
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On my 545 (same engine as the E39 540) I get between 32 and 36mpg on M'way cruises and between 26 and 28mpg around town. Advancement in engine electronic fripery fitted to the E60 4398cc lump gives a huge improvement in mpg condsidering the size of the engine. Towing, I'm looking at 21-22mpg |
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I get to around 28-30mpg with the 528 over a longer period. Never seen more than 35-36mpg on the motorway at cruising. Considering the size of the car and the autobox I don't think this is that bad. All as long as you don't put your foot down. In town only, I have had 20-22mpg How does the 540 compare to this? |
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Posted: 13-January-2010 at 15:47 |
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mybe there is a reason for this.if i owned a bmw dealership i would be more than happy with people getting thir failed turbos replaced.can you imagain how many diesel bmw have got turbo replacment poss engine 320d for example.i think thats why the second hand values are so low for prop the best engines in the world that they could have been.
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