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'Mercedes driver Michael Schumacher has been penalised for overtaking Ferrari's Fernando Alonso when it was not allowed at the end of the Monaco Grand Prix.

The decision adds 20 seconds to the German's race time, demoting him to 12th place and putting Alonso sixth...'

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no doubt there will also be a delay in the ovarall Fantasy F1 points league
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no doubt there will also be a delay in the ovarall Fantasy F1 points league
No doubt - as this will probably be the subject of an appeal
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Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

'Mercedes driver Michael Schumacher has been penalised for overtaking Ferrari's Fernando Alonso when it was not allowed at the end of the Monaco Grand Prix.

The decision adds 20 seconds to the German's race time, demoting him to 12th place and putting Alonso sixth...'

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no doubt there will also be a delay in the ovarall Fantasy F1 points league




A penalty for overtaking another car after the SC has gone in the pits, after the safety car line under green flags................... hollow victory for D. Hill.

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no doubt there will also be a delay in the ovarall Fantasy F1 points league
No doubt - as this will probably be the subject of an appeal


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Article 40.13 of the Formula 1 sporting regulations states: "If the race ends while the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."

Schumacher should only be penalised the place and not the 20seconds incurred by the ruling body IMHO.

Alonso was having a siesta and was caught out by the quick thinking Schumacher. (still the fire burns within Schumi)

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A penalty for overtaking another car after the SC has gone in the pits, after the safety car line under green flags................... hollow victory for D. Hill.


I didn't see any marshalls waving green or yellow flags after the SC had entered the pits
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A penalty for overtaking another car after the SC has gone in the pits, after the safety car line under green flags................... hollow victory for D. Hill.


I didn't see any marshalls waving green or yellow flags after the SC had entered the pits

Very true and what's more, Brawn had the photo's to prove the green lights were flashing and the line was crossed. I've never heard of no overtaking under green? Surely an unclear and unjustified rule which cannot stand. Give Shuey back his place!

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A penalty for overtaking another car after the SC has gone in the pits, after the safety car line under green flags................... hollow victory for D. Hill.


I didn't see any marshalls waving green or yellow flags after the SC had entered the pits


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Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

Article 40.13 of the Formula 1 sporting regulations states: "If the race ends while the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."

Schumacher should only be penalised the place and not the 20seconds incurred by the ruling body IMHO.

Alonso was having a siesta and was caught out by the quick thinking Schumacher. (still the fire burns within Schumi)

Best race in 2010 yet!

Pure technicality here but I think a lot will depend on the wording of the statements given to the teams about the safety car. 

If they said the safety car is coming in at the lap without further explanation then I’d say the safety car was not deployed at the end of the race.  I’m sure I can recall Ross B saying something along these lines while pointing at a print out at the end of the BBC coverage.

 

If they said nothing then the rule you quote I think should stand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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A penalty for overtaking another car after the SC has gone in the pits, after the safety car line under green flags................... hollow victory for D. Hill.


I didn't see any marshalls waving green or yellow flags after the SC had entered the pits


Watch this all the way to the end, Ross has the stills.


Cheers Sporty1, never seen that interview..it's all as clear as mud now!
Still think Schumi should only incurr a place penalty though

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Mercedes GP will not appeal Schumacher penalty..

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Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

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Originally posted by Rossi Rossi wrote:

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A penalty for overtaking another car after the SC has gone in the pits, after the safety car line under green flags................... hollow victory for D. Hill.


I didn't see any marshalls waving green or yellow flags after the SC had entered the pits


Watch this all the way to the end, Ross has the stills.


Cheers Sporty1, never seen that interview..it's all as clear as mud now!
Still think Schumi should only incurr a place penalty though



Totally agree. I think if Shumacher had done something dangerous then a harsh penalty is justified but it was a misunderstanding of which the only outcome was Alonso lost and Schumacher gained. I believe the penalty should have been no more than putting Schuey back in his original place and perhaps an in depth discussion to reiterate the rule to all the teams ensuring the same doesn't happen again.

Still, it was awesome to see Michael still has it! lets hope to see more of that in the rest of the season.

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