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paul325i
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Topic: Tuning tips for BMW E30 325i anyone??? Posted: 18-February-2004 at 00:51 |
Timray wrote:
Paul, point taken. BTW, I used to have an Alpina C2 2.5 with the 4.1 diff factory-fitted (well, Alpina-fitted) and the result, with a factory dogleg box, was 0-60 in 6.7 and a top speed limited by the gearing to 141mph. All from 190bhp.
The gearing did not feel too low at the time, but today it would, because we are used to higher gearing in more recent cars. The only problem was that the dogleg box had a conspicuous gap between 2nd and 3rd and the engine fell out of the power band unless you were somewhere near the red line in 2nd.
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For track use the 4.1 would be fine, but like you say i was thinking of it in a practical road application where it would have made the car a pain to drive on motorways etc.
Good luck with the search.
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Timray
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Posted: 17-February-2004 at 19:01 |
PS - It occurs to me to ask: B858JRD, are you out there?
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Timray
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Posted: 17-February-2004 at 18:58 |
Paul, point taken. BTW, I used to have an Alpina C2 2.5 with the 4.1 diff factory-fitted (well, Alpina-fitted) and the result, with a factory dogleg box, was 0-60 in 6.7 and a top speed limited by the gearing to 141mph. All from 190bhp.
The gearing did not feel too low at the time, but today it would, because we are used to higher gearing in more recent cars. The only problem was that the dogleg box had a conspicuous gap between 2nd and 3rd and the engine fell out of the power band unless you were somewhere near the red line in 2nd.
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paul325i
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Posted: 17-February-2004 at 18:37 |
Better balance but the engine will be rubbish for what you plan to do, the torque and power is all up the top end so you'll need to rev the hell out of it to get it to break traction.
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Timray
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Posted: 17-February-2004 at 16:43 |
Hmmm... would you be better off with a 318iS for autotesting? You can pick up a good 318iS for £1200 and it looks as if you are going to spend a third of that on a diff... the last LSD I saw advertised was £425 (standard diffs are much cheaper).
I love my 325i Sport but a 318iS has to be better balanced. Enjoy, anyway ---
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Jay B
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Posted: 20-January-2004 at 15:08 |
Hi there, regarding the bumper swap etc. I was told by a specialist that it's not really possible to do anything with the rear end in terms of changing over - he said it'd be easier to cut the back off and use that of another car! Although you can apparently fit all the parts to the front end.
If you're after more torque a "rally cam" is not the way to go, they're usually designed to work properly from say 4000-8000rpm on 4 cyl engines.
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Nick
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Posted: 20-January-2004 at 09:45 |
There are lots of breakers out there specialising in BMW.. just have a look in BMW Car or similar mags.
I would buy one of those rather than a recon one.. it may not need doing.. but if it does you could take it to a transmission specialist of your choice and have it set up as stiff as you want.
Nick
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stappin
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Posted: 19-January-2004 at 22:42 |
Anyideas on where to buy a recon diff if I dont have one?
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stappin
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Posted: 19-January-2004 at 22:40 |
Fingers crossed I will have one (please god!)
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Nick
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Posted: 19-January-2004 at 12:45 |
I you are v lucky the car may have an lsd already.. as it was an option at the time.
It is easy to check..
Jack one rear wheel up off the ground.. if you can turn it reasonably freely Im afraid it is just a regular one.
Schrick were at the Autosport show last week.. just do a google on them and contact them directly.
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stappin
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Posted: 19-January-2004 at 12:30 |
DC mine is Just a 325i (not sport) does it had an LSD in it as standard or am I gonna have to source one from somewhere?
Where can you get schrick cams from in the UK. Can't find anywhere online who list them but lots who have fitted them...
PS The E30's with the non chrome bumper will they fit on me exisiting chromed bumper brackets or is there some mod work to do? I need to replace much of the front end body work so if I need to fit the later style wings I can.
Look forward to your input.
stappin
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 19-January-2004 at 11:43 |
This may seam like a silly question but what is autotesting
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Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.
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daddy cool
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Posted: 19-January-2004 at 10:24 |
im not aware of any "rally cams" for the 325 , but i think most will agree that schrick make the best aftermarket cams off the shelf !
if u wanna go silly u could allways get someone to profile a cam for you but i dont know if u would gain anything by doin it that way ?
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e30 2.7 cab
e30 325i
e30 325 sport
e30 318 touring
e28 m5
e28 m535
e34 m5
e39 540
e36 318ti (green)
e36 318ti (mauve)
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stappin
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Posted: 18-January-2004 at 19:16 |
Yup I so far have the following shopping list for this year...
Hydraulic handbrake kit Rally Cam If anyone does one! Sparco Roll Cage 2x Sparco Sprint Seats 2x Sparco 4 point Harnesses Fire extinguisher FIA Masterswitch
OOOOOhhhhh haha ha!
Anyone know who does a Rally Cam for the 325i M20?
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daddy cool
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Posted: 18-January-2004 at 12:05 |
no worries dude . im sure u,l have a right larf ,
have u thought about a dash mounted upright handbrake lever ?
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e30 2.7 cab
e30 325i
e30 325 sport
e30 318 touring
e28 m5
e28 m535
e34 m5
e39 540
e36 318ti (green)
e36 318ti (mauve)
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stappin
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Posted: 17-January-2004 at 22:58 |
I don't mind being the odd one out at autotesting I am just doing it for the giggle ;) Cheers for the input daddy cool
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daddy cool
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Posted: 17-January-2004 at 10:40 |
for autotesting you wont need to do any performance mods at all .
you will NEED a LSD and a non ratchet handbrake . a few sets of cheap tyres are a must and will help if you strip the car out .
a fiend of mine duz it in a caterham with a 1600 xflow fitted . (110 bhp) so ur 160 brake 2.5 lump will be more than adequate.
when u get into it u,l find people using novas escorts and allsorts of strange cars . u will be at a disadvantage simply because the car u want to use is larger and heavier than ideal ...
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e30 2.7 cab
e30 325i
e30 325 sport
e30 318 touring
e28 m5
e28 m535
e34 m5
e39 540
e36 318ti (green)
e36 318ti (mauve)
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E30Alpina
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Posted: 17-January-2004 at 01:35 |
The most effective mod is a 2.7 conversion. U get loads more bottom end torque and if a cam is fitted along with some head work (rempa essential of course) then it will make a 2.5 feel very weak.
Ive had numerous 325s and I currently own a Alpina C2 2.7. The 325i simply does not compete.
I have a freind with a 325i with cam, chip, airfilter, 6 branch manifold, exhuast, big bore throttle body etc etc...........does not come close to the 2.7.
I am currently selling my 93k 210 bhp Alpina engine. Get in touch if your interested.
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stappin
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Posted: 16-January-2004 at 19:30 |
Cheers Nick
Autotests are me starting block for it then Autocrosses and then with a bit of work single stage rallying hence perfomance tweeks early on to make sure I don't blow it up ;)
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Nick
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Posted: 16-January-2004 at 17:53 |
The 'low end grunt' is pretty much built in as standard on a 325.. I doubt any other cam would help you much in an autotest.
I would think a set of smaller wheels would benefit you more.
The last thing you need to be doing is changing gear to keep it in the power band..
.. oh and you may want to overhall the handbrake.. they are crap on E30 320/325s.. and you will defo need a good handbrake.
Nick
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