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Terrier 
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Joined: 25-March-2004
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 Topic: Fog lights
Posted: 25-March-2004 at 11:08 |
I've rigged up my unused foglamp on my LHD compact for when I'm driving back from Germany to the UK (I'm an English ex-pat). It was a simple mod, just using a wire to connect up the positive terminals, tucking it behind the plastic panels as it crosses the boot. Circuit tester shows the current to still be okay with all lights glaring.
Great forum by the way guys, I'm a long time reader but a first time poster.
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Hans Freikit
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Posted: 24-March-2004 at 10:53 |
Just another thought about the "missing" rear fog lamp, as I've encountered a similar situation on previous cars I've owned...
Would it be possible (disregarding the expense for a sec) to source a whole rear lamp unit (the one that contains the fog) from a LHD car and use that ?
HF
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dave 328
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Posted: 23-March-2004 at 18:25 |
 Peter Fenwick wrote:
Hey,
there's nothing wrong with rovers as long as you don't mind clutches that fail after 30K, interior trim that falls off and that lovely fake wooden trim they always put in their cars.
Only kidding, except about the fake wood! My brother has had two rovers a 216SI and a 25 1.4. Never had any trouble with either. Mind you a friend of mine does own a 216 coupe that is possibly one of the worst built cars I have ever been in. |
The wood trim in my rover Coupe was real wood, I know as I took it off and trimmed it in leather to match the seats. I never had probs with BQ in 5 yrs I had it! 
With the leccy screwdrivers, make sure you use the correct one!! I tested the house mains with one - Big flash and pop.... and a melted screwdriver - then checked and found it was a 12 volter!!!
Good job I'd connected the croccy clip on the earth as I'd have a melted arm - thought it was strange to have the clip as the 240V drivers have no croccy clip!
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thepits
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Posted: 22-March-2004 at 22:09 |
kbannon wrote:
either way I was referring to the screwdrivers that have a bulb inside & a wire comin from the top which can be connected to an earth. You stick this end onto the earth and the other end onto the wire to be tested |
Yes I knew that really!
But the bit of wire is NEVER long enough, and you need three hands to use it, so its much cheaper & easier to make your own out of an old bulb, a couple of l.o.n.g bits of wire & a couple of 'croc' clips - sorted 
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Peter H
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Posted: 19-March-2004 at 15:54 |
Was using BMW as basis for costings as they produced over 1 million cars last year 
Only been there since January & look at how things have changed, 
anyway going in 340 again in couple of weeks !
Why are the camera partnership driving round in Primera estates ? catch more people than with white van ?
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Das Wolperdinger
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 19-March-2004 at 14:32 |
Hey,
there's nothing wrong with rovers as long as you don't mind clutches that fail after 30K, interior trim that falls off and that lovely fake wooden trim they always put in their cars.
Only kidding, except about the fake wood! My brother has had two rovers a 216SI and a 25 1.4. Never had any trouble with either. Mind you a friend of mine does own a 216 coupe that is possibly one of the worst built cars I have ever been in.
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Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.
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Nigel
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Posted: 19-March-2004 at 13:54 |
Peter
Thats all well and good mate, but you work for rover, what are they going to do with 1,000,000 cars a year ? lol
Doors are bolted, shutters up, I'm ready for you !!!!!!!!!
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Nigel
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Peter H
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Posted: 19-March-2004 at 06:49 |
Its Handbags at 10 Paces !!!
Only one bulb is fitted as a cost down, if only one is required a saving can be made, on 1,000,000 cars a year its probably in the region of £50k which, with other savings increases the profit margins
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kbannon
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Posted: 19-March-2004 at 00:41 |
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either way I was referring to the screwdrivers that have a bulb inside & a wire comin from the top which can be connected to an earth. You stick this end onto the earth and the other end onto the wire to be tested
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Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
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1997 E39 523i
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Nigel
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Posted: 18-March-2004 at 23:20 |
oooh he's looking for a fight Killian lol.
You can get dc ones , omron recently gave me one, doubles as a microwave oven radiation tester, and can be dragged down a cable to see where any break is.This one will work on AC or DC.
Youd be better off getting a cheap multimeter to be honest.
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Nigel
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thepits
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Posted: 18-March-2004 at 21:20 |
kbannon wrote:
ok, (1)correct me if Im wrong but arent those screwdrivers with the bulb in them called phase testers
(2)& don't they light up if there is a current in the cable (assuming the phase tester is properly grounded)? |
Killian,
(1) Possibly they could be called that, but maybe only because they are sold in Electrical resellers, in expensive packaging, and aimed at the Home market to check that the ring main is turned off before you stick your finger in the socket! (That's AC, which IS phased!)
(2) Yes they do light up, but when they find voltage not current, that's the measurement of power been drawn, and is nothing to do with volts.
I'll get me coat  Simon
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kbannon
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Posted: 18-March-2004 at 21:07 |
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ok, correct me if Im wrong but arent those screwdrivers with the bulb in them called phase testers & don't they light up if there is a current in the cable (assuming the phase tester is properly grounded)?
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Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual
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thepits
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Posted: 18-March-2004 at 20:04 |
kbannon wrote:
You could wire it from the other side but check if there is a live point for this (just not connected) - get your phase tester out and see. |
"phase tester" - hark at Killian! 
I've got a bulb soldered to a couple of bit of wire to test for a live!  Does for me!
(what you want a 'phase tester' for anyway on a car? It's DC - there aren't any!) 
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kbannon
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Posted: 18-March-2004 at 12:07 |
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You could wire it from the other side but check if there is a live point for this (just not connected) - get your phase tester out and see.
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Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual
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dave 328
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Posted: 18-March-2004 at 11:17 |
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Does anyone know how to wire up the other fog light, mine has holder, circuit board on the lamp and bulb for it!!!
Other than piggy backing from the other side is there a wire that simply needs connecting as it has everything else in place?
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Nigel
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Posted: 18-March-2004 at 08:59 |
This is true Killian, and gives you "construction and use" problems if driving on the "wrong" side of the road.
Try and MOT one with the lamp on the wrong side.
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Nigel
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kbannon
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E39 525i Sport Individual
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Posted: 17-March-2004 at 23:56 |
most small cars only have one rear fog light with the other side containing the car's only reverse light.
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Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual
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Nigel
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Posted: 17-March-2004 at 23:13 |
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Yes it is legal, in fact only having one can cause you grief when abroad, if you need to use them and you only have one, its on the wrong side !!
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Nigel
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thepits
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Posted: 17-March-2004 at 22:59 |
The law changed so only one rear fog light was required - seems stupid  to me, but there you go!
Obviously for asthetic reasons, the other, unused, red lens was left intact.
Suppose it IS legal to have two on these cars, I don't know??
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Young50
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Posted: 17-March-2004 at 21:41 |
Cheers Dan.
Might well modify
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