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    Posted: 22-April-2004 at 23:16
Don't forget -

23rd April is St Georges Day - Fly the flag!


I know, I know, this is a (german)BMW Forum, but lots of us here are English, and should be proud of it, regardless of who made our car.

I'm certainly flying the flag of St George tomorrow on my E30 M3!


The Irish celebrate St Patricks Day (I've seen them do it at the races! ), the Scots St Andrew, and the Welsh St David (complete with leek) - it's about the English celebrated as well.


It should be a National holiday in my opinion.


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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-April-2004 at 23:20

Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

It should be a National holiday in my opinion.

Im surprised to hear that it is not a holiday. Do the Welsh & Socts get a holiday on their patron saints day?
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-April-2004 at 23:28

Actually on that note ("fly the flag"), did you know that the Union Jack is based on three flags, that of St. George(white with red +), St. Andrew(blue with white X) & St. Patrick(White with red X).

Actually this may explain it better than I can.
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Points: 6941 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-April-2004 at 23:41

I didnt think the flag had anything to do with st patrick, I had always thought it was st george, st andrew, and st david.

England, Scotland, & Wales !
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Points: 927 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-April-2004 at 00:32
Yep i agree with Nigel !     
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No, I remember doing it in history in school.
I think the link I posted proves me right
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Points: 6941 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-April-2004 at 08:40

I read the link, and they said they "thought" it was.

My history isnt very good, but had we been horrid to you Irish chaps by 1801 ?

I was definately taught England, Scotland, and Wales, but history depends on the country !

I can demonstrate the above point with a short tale about Guatamala.

I was recently working in a factory over there, and the factory owner took me home for dinner, and to meet his family and friends, its a long way so your a bit of a celebrity in southern america for not being north american !

Over dinner the boss was demonstrating his knowledge of my country, its history, and history in general.

He spoke of the great british pirate, Francis Drake !!

We had quite a laugh about a Spanish colony regarding him as a pirate, whilst in his home country he was a knight of the realm, and somewhat of a hero.

My teachers could have been wrong of course, but strange Peter seems to have been taught the same thing.
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-April-2004 at 08:47

woo hoo, Im right because your queen is after telling me so (should have taken bets)!!!

The flag consists of three heraldic crosses.

The cross of St George, patron saint of England since the 1270's, is a red cross on a white ground. It was the national flag of England until James I succeeded to the throne in 1603, after which it was combined in 1606 with the crosses of St. Andrew and St. Patrick;
 
The cross saltire of St Andrew, patron saint of Scotland, is a diagonal white cross on a blue ground.

The cross saltire of St Patrick, patron saint of Ireland, is a diagonal red cross on a white ground. This was combined with the previous Union Flag of St George and St Andrew, after the Act of Union of Ireland with England (and Wales) and Scotland on 1 January 1801, to create the Union Flag that has been flown ever since.

The Welsh dragon does not appear on the Union Flag. This is because when the first Union Flag was created in 1606, the Principality of Wales by that time was already united with England and was no longer a separate principality
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Points: 6941 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-April-2004 at 08:53

Strange

I was taught the red diagonal bits were to shut the welsh up !!

But yours seems to make more sense

I love your united bit regarding wales, already overrun by the english would be more like it.

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Points: 552 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-April-2004 at 20:58
Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

It should be a National holiday in my opinion.


Im surprised to hear that it is not a holiday. Do the Welsh & Socts get a holiday on their patron saints day?



Not with the Anti-English Govt we have at the moment!

Happy St George's Day everyone!

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Points: 6941 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-April-2004 at 21:00

Happy st georges day to you James

I flew the flag today, actually saw quite a few !!
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Points: 10000473 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-April-2004 at 17:23
Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

Actually on that note ("fly the flag"), did you know that the Union Jack is based on three flags, that of St. George(white with red +), St. Andrew(blue with white X) & St. Patrick(White with red X



Thanks for the support KB (and everyone else)- but just to be pedantic - what moi?



Its only the Union Jack when it's flown from a ship/boat/vessel.

Otherwise it is the Union Flag




........and to the post re 'anti-English Government" I thought we weren't allowed to post political comments on the forum? (Where's Nigel when you need him?) - mind you they're right!!
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Points: 6941 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-April-2004 at 18:49

I'm here

I dont consider that to be political, as I thinks its right lol

 

 
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Points: 10000473 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-April-2004 at 21:27
Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

I'm here, I dont consider that to be political, as I thinks its right lol



Thanks Nigel, so is it then ok to say...

the EU is a waste of space and has too much control,  



and at the election for "None of the above"

or is all this going to be edited and no-one will know what i said?



Rule Britannia, Britain for the British, etc etc



Xenophobia ? What's that??

not all, just some



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Points: 6941 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-April-2004 at 23:53

Simon, behave !!!!!

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