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smorrice 
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Joined: 21-June-2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 49 |
 Topic: E34 Angel EyesPosted: 08-August-2004 at 01:03 |
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i dont have a wheel next to my headlight switch, so im thinking it may be a feature from later models(mine is an 89).
just as well i dont have a tow bar, or the need to tow anything. ill order a bently manual online, so its at home for me getting back. got to get her ready for the MOT when i get home, so that should be a laugh. shouldnt need too much though with any luck. Thanks for the offer of answering future questions Miles, you're a gentleman. 
in fact, everyone ive encountered on here so far, has been great. Cheers, Scott. |
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e34m5
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Joined: 26-June-2003 Location: Near Rugby, Warwickshire Status: Offline Points: 1344 |
Posted: 07-August-2004 at 11:38 |
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Yes my lights do have the adjusting motors on them, they attach at one of the 3 mounting points on the low beam light units. Have you got a numbered wheel next to your main headlight switch ? As i thought all E34's apart from those with self leveling suspension (my M5 did not have the Headlight motors) were fitted with this feature as standard ?
The only manual worth getting for the E34 would be the Bentley Service manual, but i really don't mind answering (or at least try to answer) any other questions you may have. Goog luck with the installation Miles |
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smorrice
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Posted: 07-August-2004 at 02:06 |
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hey guys.
thanks for the advice. the original lights seem to be adjusted by means of screws, just like the quality bmw pic in mmm-fives post. there werent any motors attached to the backing plates. perhaps this is a feature on later model cars. do you have them on yours Miles? the backing plate material is softer like you say Andy, but by the looks of things they should fit straight in. fingers crossed. i think what i need to do is buy a haynes/bently (recommendations please) then ill be able to see for myself instead of asking you guys questions all the time. i havent had a chance to get the new angeleyes in yet Miles, so the problems with the dips are more likely to be related to the LKM like you say rather than anything to do with the new units. thanks again for the help guys. much appreciated.
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Badger 540
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Posted: 06-August-2004 at 21:57 |
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No problem Miles, there was a lot of moulding flash on the backplate and it seemed to be made of a softer material than the OEM one, but the stepper motor was the main stumbling block. I think I may have just fitted them straight on if it wasn't for that. Andy West Midlands |
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e34m5
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Posted: 06-August-2004 at 17:17 |
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Ooops sorry I thought you said is wasn't very good quality...
Miles |
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Badger 540
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Posted: 06-August-2004 at 16:55 |
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The Depo kit didn't have the stepper motors for headlight aim adjustment. It's fiddly to swap over the stepper motor off your old backing plate without removing the dip beams off the mountings first.
Have a look in the Bentley manual or on the ETK for an exploded diagram and you'll twig what I mean. Cheers. Andy West Midlands |
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e34m5
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Posted: 06-August-2004 at 12:11 |
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The Depo lights should just be a direct replacement for the original Hella units, the only reason Andy made the modifications was that he wasn't happy with the quality of the Depo support frame or the beam pattern/cutoff pattern of the replacement Low beam projectors. Did the dips work ok before you installed the new units ? If not it sounds like you have a problem with your LKM, check Here for further information.
Hope that helps. Miles |
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smorrice
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Posted: 06-August-2004 at 04:04 |
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i bought the qualitybmw kit also (two pairs of main and dip lamps on backing plate with wiring), but still havent had time to get it fitted yet.(offshore, then straight on holiday, then back offshore.) i had a look at them at home and was wondering if the problems badger540 experienced would affect me as i have an E34 and dont have HID. the kit appeared to be complete, and looked as if it would fit straight in. have i missed something? im new to owning a bmw, so its possible i havent noticed something some of the more experienced heads will have. a bit off topic guys, but when i attempted to fit them i found i had a problem with my dips. the passenger side dip works intermittantly, and the drivers side dip doesnt work at all, main beam and side lights work fine. All bulbs are in good order, so its not that. im hoping its just a relay or the like, but i didnt have much time to investigate further. if anyone has any ideas or suggestions on either point, your help will be greatly appreciated. Edited by smorrice |
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mmm-five
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Posted: 26-July-2004 at 16:37 |
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It'll be the VAT that screws it up then - thanks! The rate I used from the FT (tourist rate, not currency market rate which is about 8% higher) was £1=1.45 Euro.
BTW I'm getting the Quality BMW angel eye lights (the whole unit, not just the conversion) with the HID.co.uk Xenon conversion for about £700.
I didn't like the look of the 'missing piece' at the bottom of the Xenonvalot Celis ones.
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Deathace
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Posted: 26-July-2004 at 14:08 |
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when i posted i used the currency converter on www.xe.com/ucc/ and converted € to £ and that was the figures it gave. Perhaps the euro has increased since then? Edit: I didnt add VAT prices either. Russ Edited by Deathace |
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mmm-five
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Posted: 26-July-2004 at 13:34 |
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Russ, did you convert these prices at the $ exhange rate instead of the €? I get the €769 ones to equate to about £530+vat (£623), and the €1199 ones to equate to about £826 +vat (£971). |
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Deathace
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Posted: 21-July-2004 at 12:08 |
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I bought the glass lense from a place in the states (ebay is your friend) i saw no point replacing more than what was chipped :) they do them for the fogs as well which i didn't need but at least its good to know they are available. Russ |
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e34m5
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Posted: 21-July-2004 at 11:41 |
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Why did you have to unglue the lenses ? When you buy the replacement "insert" (£23ish) from GSF or Eurocarparts you can just unscrew the old unit and put the new one in ? Or can you just buy the glass lens on its own ?
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Deathace
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Posted: 21-July-2004 at 11:31 |
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I replaced the lenses on my car at the beginning of the year and had to use a heat gun on the lense to melt the glue/adhesive and then glue (glue gun) the new ones on. however stone chips on 2 of my lights already are making me lean towards replacing the whole light unit for the angels. Russ |
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e34m5
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Posted: 21-July-2004 at 10:37 |
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Yes i was able to feed them through the centre opening in the reflector as they are very flexible, i then fed the power cable out through the side light holder. Looking at the photos again they do seem quite blue but if you look at them in person they are white...Very strange.
As far as i know the only way to fit the rigid angel eyes is to remove the glass lens from the front of the unit by heating up the adhesive ? Miles Edited by e34m5 |
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Badger 540
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Posted: 21-July-2004 at 08:43 |
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Miles, I presume you were able to feed the ring through the back of the reflector aperture to get it to the periphery of the lamp insert. I don't think this would be possible with the genuine Hella rings which are much stiffer plastic. (Wouldn't want to break on of those !!) Cheers. Andy West Midlands |
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Badger 540
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Posted: 21-July-2004 at 08:40 |
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Thanks for that info Nigel. I did hear of a fellow who's car failed it's MOT because of blue halo lighting, so maybe the MOT station was wrong. Cheers Andy West Midlands Edited by Badger 540 |
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Nigel
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Posted: 21-July-2004 at 00:13 |
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Just to put your minds at rest over things blue. The regulations state that only an emergency vehicle can have a blue light to the rear. Only an emergency vehicle can have a FLASHING blue light to the front. So static blue at the front is ok, which is how all the max power cretins get away with all those washer jets etc. |
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Best Wishes
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e34m5
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Posted: 20-July-2004 at 23:32 |
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Here is a better picture taken in the dark, i am pleased with the result...They seem to be much whiter than the normal Angel Eyes
Miles |
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Deathace
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Posted: 20-July-2004 at 22:22 |
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oh by the way i have spoken to quality-bmw and asked them to look into getting replacement lenses for the angel eyes on ebay he mailed me back asking for which side so i replied RHD. As soon as he replies i will let you all know prices. Russ |
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