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    Posted: 01-September-2004 at 16:31

Hi all

Is it possible to get a DIY manual for my car. The Haynes manual only goes up to 1991 (j reg). My motor is a K reg 1992. I have noticed I can get an electronic manual on CD from ebay. Is this a good alternative.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-September-2004 at 16:37
The BMW ETK/TIS etc (CD's on ebay) are not really manuals, one is the dealer parts system and the other is a troubleshooting cd (which is quite difficult to use). The best manual for the E34 is the Bentley Service Manual available from Amazon etc.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-September-2004 at 18:10
The bentley wont cover the 2.0 litre engine, the yanks never imported that one
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The 2.0 litre 24V M50(TU) is virtually identical to the 2.5 litre 24V M50(TU) (apart from capacity obviously)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-September-2004 at 15:13

Thanks for the replies guys.

Would the Haynes manual be ok then. Or did BMW make a number of changes to the car after 1991.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-September-2004 at 16:34

I'm afraid the Haynes will not be much use apart from background reading.  Bentley is required if you are really going to get into the mechanics.  Or, use this forum, of the other BMW forums, or the E34 forum.

Haynes have got worse and worse over the years.  The manual you (And I have) is for the 3 or the 5 series, with most of the pictures based on the 3.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-September-2004 at 02:55

I'll second that opinion about Haynes manuals.

On the last forum I was on for Vx Senators the Haynes manual was referred to on a fairly regular basis as, The Haynes Comic Book, The Haynes Book of Laughter, The Haynes Book of Parodies.

I have just bought the Haynes Manual for the E46 (is that right, I'm not sure with these E numbers yet!) Series 3 from 98 onwards so I could get a bit more clued up on BMW's.  I figured that the information on a Series 3 2494cc lump would be mostly relevant to my E39 2494cc 523i engine.

Was reading it last night and the picture quality is really very poor.  All the photos are very dark like they have been photo copied about a dozen times.  Also there are loads of errors,  I don't know of any mechanical errors in this one but I'll not start on the mechanical/technical errors I have found over the years, but things like typing, grammar and spelling!  I am no expert on the use of the English language as you can probably tell from my posts but I really think Haynes need to pull their socks up.

I remember the days when they used to give you full exploded diagrams for the diff's (whole rear rigid axle assys) and gearbox.  For example I learnt last night that my oil pump is chain driven off the crank and is mounted in the sump but years ago you would have seen that in their exploded views of the engine assy I had to read about it.

They even stop showing full diagrams of the suspension components.  I have an early Vx Carlton manual which has these diagrams in but the latest Carlton manual didn't.  Have they not heard of the expression 'A picture tells a million words'? 

I think the problem is the fact they now call them Service and Repair Manuals and they used to be called Owners Workshop Manuals.

Dare I even buy a Haynes Manual for my E39 if they ever get their finger out and write one?  

Sorry got a bit carried away there, got cut up this morning by a diddy Corsa driver who pulled out into the middle lane for no reason!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-September-2004 at 04:33

very true andrew. I have 3 haynes manuals at home. One was for my 1989 fiesta and it was excellent - covered everything completely and had brilliant graphics. Pages were made from tissue paper though.

The Haynes I bought for my E30 (late) which also covered early E34 models is rubbish. Too many errors. It is designed for the likes of my wife who wants to know how to check the air in the tyres. If you are wanting to know anything more technical then it isn't really of use compared to the competition (e.g. Bentley or Chilton).

I wouldn't bother buying a Haynes for my E39!

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