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Don520
Really Senior Member I Joined: 14-October-2004 Status: Offline Points: 256 |
Posted: 15-October-2004 at 10:09 |
Adrian - a 523i at 200bhp, thats a neat trick, was it a
manifold swap? How did you do it? I hope you told your insurance company! I have a very mixed bag in the CD changer, classical music for better economy, chart music for when I am late for work. I think my stereo is linked directly to the cars ECU is the beat seems to effect the mapping. |
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techno violet
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-September-2004 Location: ireland. Status: Offline Points: 373 |
Posted: 15-October-2004 at 18:46 |
welcome don.i am a recent member myself.this is a great site to discuss all things bimmer.
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E36 323i coupe,E30 325sport.
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AHEALY
Really Senior Member II Joined: 05-February-2004 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 946 |
Posted: 18-October-2004 at 04:40 |
Don - Well actually it has approx 190bhp and 200lbft of torque, due to chipping and supersprint exhaust system. I also have a h&n panel filter but that doesn't improve things that much. The intake/throttle body jobbie isn't that straight forward and involves alot of cutting etc, as well as the obvious cost and off the road time. WOuld add about 10bhp but I'm not sure if it is worth the hassle. Do you know of anyone who could do this job ?. How about Westward engineering in Enfield ?. Dont get me wrong some of the lyric stuff is quite good, and keeps you mellow but a friend of mine is a hardcore fan and it isn't for me, especially when they are anouncing a track from a 1920's album from someone my great grandfather wouldn't have heard of, and the quality of the production is terrible, but some of the remastered stuff can be fine. |
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Ado
'97 523i & 95 M3 97 Subaru Impreza WRX Sport Wagon (sold) |
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 18-October-2004 at 04:47 |
@ AH - Ian (alpina527) does M52 upgrades (manifold and throttle body)
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Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor
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AHEALY
Really Senior Member II Joined: 05-February-2004 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 946 |
Posted: 19-October-2004 at 07:47 |
Killian, Will consider this if there isn't too much time off the road. The ecu mapping will also need adjusting if this job is done. Will check with Alpina527. thanks man |
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Ado
'97 523i & 95 M3 97 Subaru Impreza WRX Sport Wagon (sold) |
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 19-October-2004 at 08:02 |
IIRC the ECU doesn't *need* remapping but Im sure it wouldn't harm getting it done.
K. His reply to be from a while back:- Hi Killian
Here are some details:
The manifold conversion is designed to remove the restrictions that BMW deliberately built into the M52 2.8 engine. They did this to restrict the power to 193 bhp (the same bhp as the old 2.5 unit). The reason for the restriction is the German insurance market, which penalises cars which have more than 194 bhp. However, the 2.8 has a much better torque figure than the 2.5 unit. It will fit all E36 328s and all E39 528s up until 1998 model. It will also fit he 323 /523 models with similar gains in bhp.
The kit takes about 4 or 5 hours to fit. The only downside after installation is the fuel rail cover cut outs don’t quite match the manifold, though it is barely noticeable. Also a small piece of one of the fuel rail bracket needs trimming off. Everything is reversible, should you ever wish to resort back to the original. Power gains with a free flow filter are in the region of 20 bhp, typically giving around 215bhp. Tests have shown that this manifold will flow 275 cfm of air as opposed to the standard 185cfm! Schrick make a free flow manifold, which costs £900 without the body! The Schrick unit flows 250cfm. The manifold itself is an extensively re worked 2nd hand M50 manifold, complete with the seals that came with it. Though you might prefer to buy new ones. It has a new chamber, screwed and bonded into the underside, which houses the idle valve, air sensor, and oil recirculation valve in exactly the same position as the original M52 manifold. There are also two new special fittings, which accept the standard M52 stabiliser brackets and idle valve cage. Also in the kit is a big bore throttle body and if required, a big bore traction control body. These are sold on an exchange basis, where you return your old body or bodies once the kit is fitted. I will also need the plastic chamber from your old manifold that houses the idle valve etc. The manifold comes with a slightly reworked one already fitted. This conversion has to be easily the best power per pound that you can buy for the M52 2.8 engine. The engine revs all the way to the redline without any hesitation at all. Whereas the standard engine struggles past 5,000 revs. |
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ludo
Really Senior Member II Joined: 01-October-2004 Status: Offline Points: 879 |
Posted: 19-October-2004 at 08:45 |
who does remapping in ireland? ludo |
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Don520
Really Senior Member I Joined: 14-October-2004 Status: Offline Points: 256 |
Posted: 19-October-2004 at 09:23 |
Superchips are available from McNamaras, my car
showed an improvement, albeit slight. You are usually advised to also use a K&N or J&R filter airfilter in conjunction with a chip, although I decided against this as I have read too much about poor air filtration with performance filters and i like my engine to much to harm it. |
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AHEALY
Really Senior Member II Joined: 05-February-2004 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 946 |
Posted: 19-October-2004 at 10:56 |
Killian - Did you get a costing for this kit ?. Who would fit it, I was thinking of Westward engineering because they could do the proper diagnostic tests. Is it only me, or does this seem like alot of hassle for limited gain.
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Ado
'97 523i & 95 M3 97 Subaru Impreza WRX Sport Wagon (sold) |
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kbannon
Admin Group E39 525i Sport Individual Joined: 09-October-2002 Location: 64 Zoo Lane Status: Offline Points: 15508 |
Posted: 19-October-2004 at 13:12 |
Reaminder of Alpina's email:- Shouldn't be a too large job to fit! |
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