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    Posted: 26-November-2004 at 09:06
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-November-2004 at 07:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-November-2004 at 03:59

Hi Dalts,

Welcome to the club, best of luck with your new pride and joy!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-November-2004 at 06:57
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Any photos of the big 5 ??



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-November-2004 at 08:43
Hmm...not much to tell - it's totally standard really.

85k, FBMWSH, One previous owner, Silver/Grey, Electrics all round (but presume that's standard), Walnut Trim

Appears to have been generally well minded.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-November-2004 at 13:12
Welcome to the fold!  Tell us more about the motor?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-November-2004 at 12:12
Hi all

I gave in. Bought the car. A combination of:

1) Dealer being very accommodating
2) Advice from you and others

Special Thanks to Dergside and Tom. Now...don't 5 series drivers have special privileges in this forum?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-November-2004 at 08:52

Dalts

I bought my car in the UK in Jan '03 and rang BMW Cust Service.  As I mentioned earlier, the first rep I spoke to didn't know what I was talking about.  I rang back and spoke to someone else and they were able to tell me that it was in the range that could be vulnerable and that they had no record of the engine having been replaced (he reckoned they would if BMW had paid for it), but they did suggest talking to the servicing dealer to confirm that it hadn't been done without a claim.  Mine was Jan '97 reg, Dec '96 build.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-November-2004 at 15:47
I wouldnt let it worry you much to be hoonest. I have a Nikasil block in mine with 75k and I dont have any trouble with it with burning oil or anything. Nikasil issue is not  a big thing ...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-November-2004 at 12:04
Sorry to hear that. Mine is an e39 523i with 63k on the clock, and no problems to report so far (touch wood). Like yourself, i'm concerned that something might happen, but Tom has one with 110k, and I think he's had no problem with the engine, so that's a good sign.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-November-2004 at 10:33
Thanks both for the helpful information. It turns out that our 523 is a month the wrong side of Nikasil...Feb 98. Pity...kind of fell in love with the car, but I won't be taking the risk on this one.

I spoke to BMW Uk who were very helpful. They do not have records pertaining to ranges of cars/engines that are susceptible to the Nikasil problem. I was told that all cars (with the given engine type) manufactured between 1995-1998 could potentially develop problems. Apparantly, the reason that BMW never exercised a product recall was because they cannot determine if this is 'going' to occur in a car.

For information, it is a main dealer with a FBMWSH - 85k on the clock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-November-2004 at 07:35

Dalts

Tom beat me to it, but he's right about the converter - forgot about that one.  Mine has started to rattle a bit recently at .... 80k-ish

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-November-2004 at 05:19

Dalts.

There are 2 ways of checking this.

First is that there is a plaque in the engine bay on the inner wing that details the chassis number, colour, etc.  There should be a production month as well.  If the production month is April or later then there is no problem (the update happened week 10 production in '98, so around mid March).  If it shows Jan or Feb (or '97) then it was built with a Nikasil engine.  If March, then you'll need to check with BMW GB Customer Service (+44 870 5050 160), give them the chassis number and ask if it is in the range that may potentially be affected by premature bore wear.  When I called them about mine, it took a second call to a different operator to get someone that knew what I was talking about.

If the car came from the UK at any stage, they should be able to tell you if the engine was replaced by BMW.  If its an Irish car from new then I'm not sure how helpful BMW Irl or the dealers will be in checking or confirming anything.  They were more than just unhelpful when Mac had a problem with his a few months back.

There is a visual sign if the engine has been updated, but I can't remember what it is.  There should be someone on here that can help with that.

Lastly, if the car has a Nikasil engine, it doesn't automatically spell trouble.  My car is over 80k up and it doesn't touch a drop between services at intervals of 12-13k miles.  Several others here have had a similar experience (but some have had problems too, so not trying to play down the potential).

As to other stuff, the car is pretty robust, but watch out for any suspension clunks or the like.  Ball joints, track control arms, etc. are more robust than on earlier models but do eventually wear out (I had a rear balljoint done at last service, front track control arms recently and the shocks are starting to show early signs of deterioration).  The other main thing to watch for is that all the electrics do what they should.  There's a lot of electric and electronic trickery on there and if they give trouble it can be complex in isolating and correcting the problems.  If the car has air-con or climate, make sure it blows icy cold at 16degrees.

Personally, I wouldn't buy without a rock solid service history.  On a car like this I'd still like it to be BMW main dealer, but other here don't feel its so important that its main dealer, just that there is a history.  If its a specialist, make sure they have access to all the right diagnostic equipment, etc. before taking much comfort from it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-November-2004 at 05:03

I believe the cut off points for the engines is mid march 98.  However, the car may be registered after that and still have a pre march 98 engine block.

If you can get the last 7 digits of the chassis number (2 letters, 5 numbers) and put it in to this online database, it will give you the month of production.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/

Also, do a search on these forums for the nikasil issue.  It's been covered numerous times and describes ways of checking for it.

Mines a '97 with 110k miles and no nikasil issues.

I couldn't give you a complete list of things to check but will let you know problems I've experienced in the last year.

Windscreen washer pump failure - Problem rectified by BMW in post Aug 97 cars with new style pump

Overheating - you should definately check this. Temp should reach mid-needle after a few minutes of driving and not budge past it.  Problems normally associated with the thermostat and the fan clutch.  Mine turned out to be a small leak in the hose causing an airlock.

Worn front suspension bushes - give the tyres a kick from the front and if the rock back & forward, the bushes are worn

Wiper arm bush worn - hard to tell unless it actually falls off which happened to me.  Easy 1 hr fix with replacement arm for €10

Catalytic converter - listen for a sound like marbles rolling around in the exhaust when you rev it hard.  Common failure around the 80k mark

I've also seen on a car I test drove the electric windows & sunroof opening after locking the doors.  Caused by a misaligned micro switch in the drivers door lock for the courtesy lock.

If I think of anything else, I'll let you know



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-November-2004 at 04:29
Hi all

I'm currently looking at a 98 E39, which I'm giving quite serious consideration to buying. I've been driving the car for a week and pretty much everything seems right. However, having read some of the horror stories in this forum, I want to determine if the car is post-nikasil production.

I have the chassis number - I just need to know who to ask, preferably with some contact details.

Anything else to look out for from other E39 owners - apart from the lazy throttle, which it doesn't appear to have?
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