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brybusa
Really Senior Member II Joined: 02-December-2004 Status: Offline Points: 676 |
Posted: 19-January-2005 at 07:10 |
Reads good Mark Please keep us updated.... Best Bryan
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marky
Groupie Joined: 02-June-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 59 |
Posted: 27-January-2005 at 11:23 |
Ok I have just received a reply from BMW GB. Its does look as if I am not going to be able to get anywhere with this other than 50% of parts. Also, now my anger has susbided, I have asked my dealer to fix the car and it should be ready for collection tomorow. On the positive side, at least we now all know where we stand with this issue and what BMW will contribute to fixing it. Also I don't have to worry anymore as to whether my car will have a nikasil problem in the future! --------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mr Kennerley, Thank you for your Email dated January 19, 2005, informing us of your disappointment regarding the need to replace your vehicles engine block and pistons as a result of cylinder bore wear. Please accept my apologies on behalf of BMW Great Britain for the inconvenience this matter has caused. A great deal of investigative work has been carried out in to the cause of this problem by BMW AG and there appears to be no pattern concerning age, mileage, driving style. Indeed there are a great number of regions of the country which remain largely unaffected. I can assure you that this problem only occurs in isolated cases and does not affect every car with the six cylinder engine, indeed there are a great many vehicles which have now covered well in excess of 100,000 miles with no sign of deterioration, it is for this reason that we have chosen not to inconvenience customers and recall all vehicles which may potentially be affected. As you are aware BMW have now produced modified cylinder blocks with iron liners which are guaranteed to be unaffected by varying fuel quality. Should a customer experience a deterioration in their vehicle's performance, irrespective of service history and up to 150,000 miles, BMW will contribute 50% of the cost of the part for the engine block replacement. Mr Kennerley, the warranty supplied with your vehicle from new has long since expired and therefore our contractual obligation has ceased. My offer to you is of a goodwill nature and I apologise if it has not met with your expectations but I can confirm that this is our final position in this matter and therefore this goodwill gesture will remain in place should you wish to accept. Yours sincerely Mike Allen Customer Service Manager |
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Dergside
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000 |
Posted: 27-January-2005 at 12:40 |
Has there ever been a definition of what constitutes a "high sulpher level"?
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brybusa
Really Senior Member II Joined: 02-December-2004 Status: Offline Points: 676 |
Posted: 28-January-2005 at 03:48 |
Well, you tried Marky.... You going to get the work done or just "out it"? |
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marky
Groupie Joined: 02-June-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 59 |
Posted: 28-January-2005 at 04:24 |
Dergside: No, not seen any definition of 'High Sulphur'. Maybe we should all be provided with a small chemistry set to check before we refuel :-) brybusa: I was going to trade it in for a Ford Mundane! but they would only give me Auction price which is less than Trade price. They didn't ask if I had any problems with the car, but Auction price was ridiculously low. I could get almost th same amount by selling the Sat Nav and Wheels on Ebay. So by tonight I will be £2350 lighter! |
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brybusa
Really Senior Member II Joined: 02-December-2004 Status: Offline Points: 676 |
Posted: 28-January-2005 at 05:56 |
Gutted for you mate If i really didnt have the cash to fix it, Id have to sell it on privately Having said that, the car should last years and years after the work!
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MattB106
Senior Member II Joined: 04-April-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 233 |
Posted: 29-January-2005 at 17:24 |
Hi. Sorry to hear of your problems. You may have seen my thread in 3-series technical or on E36coupe. BMW offered me only 50% parts earlier this month. I decided to go it alone through a specialist and it's costing me £1300 (£700 for the fitting, £600 for the block kit) all in. There were only two 2.8 block kits left in the UK. I bought one, and the specialist who is fitting mine bought the other today (along with a 2.3). The specialist are called Wheelbase and are Bristol based if you're interested. Good luck :-) |
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MattB
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MattB106
Senior Member II Joined: 04-April-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 233 |
Posted: 29-January-2005 at 17:27 |
ohh Wheelbases number if you want.. 01179 656007 The guys are ex-BMW and were recommended by a guy on E36coupe who works at Wellsway BMW in Bath. |
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MattB
E36 328i Sport in silver www.fotki.com/mattb106 |
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MattB106
Senior Member II Joined: 04-April-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 233 |
Posted: 30-January-2005 at 10:26 |
Ooops read it prperly and you've already paid out :( Well hopefully this might be useful to someone else
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MattB
E36 328i Sport in silver www.fotki.com/mattb106 |
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billygoat
Newbie Joined: 16-February-2005 Status: Offline Points: 6 |
Posted: 28-February-2005 at 08:26 |
Hey Marky, Would you mind publishing a breakdown of the costs of your replacement engine & installation, & confirm wheter or not you used a BMW main dealer, if so who & where? Many thanks mate |
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Fizzy
Newbie Joined: 04-March-2005 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Posted: 04-March-2005 at 18:17 |
Sorry to tag this on here, but it is related to Nikasil. But, I'm thinking of a 1996 (last of the E34's) BMW 530 from a private buyer. I'm not quite sure of the mileage, but I guess it's about 100k. Basically, do I still need to be worried about the Nikasil issue, or are we past that now?
Thanks, Fizzy |
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J7 VNK
Really Senior Member I Joined: 24-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 450 |
Posted: 07-March-2005 at 07:46 |
Short answer is yes, the M60 is affected by the Nikasil and AFAIK all M60 engines were! See if there's any history of the block being changed as a 1st port of call!! BMW can tell you this! phone customer services with the reg number and ask if it had a warrenty claim RE the Nikasil issue! |
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BM528SE
Newbie Joined: 07-March-2005 Status: Offline Points: 16 |
Posted: 07-March-2005 at 12:01 |
Holy ....
The only reason I just bought my 528 was because after 7 years of owning a Calibra Turbo I wanted something that was reliable and didnt go wrong,warranty Claims,recalls.....e.t.c What have I let myself in for........ |
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sharknose
Groupie Joined: 10-August-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 59 |
Posted: 09-March-2005 at 07:37 |
Hi Marky, Just read your story here, gutted for you. This might be too late now, but, surely, regardless of the warranty that BMW offer on their cars, as has been suggested by at least one other poster here, their product should be of "merchantable quality" - it would seem that it should be reasonable to expect a BMW vehicle, serviced in line with the manufacturers recommendations, and run on petrol meeting the standards specified in the owners handbook (so I'm guessing just 95 RON UL, no mention of you having to get your chemistry kit out to check the sulphur levels), to continue to work correctly. Yes there is the "reasonable wear and tear issue", but this clearly isn't reasonable wear and tear, otherwise BMW would not be making a goodwill gesture offer towards the cost of repairs. As I understand it, it doesn't matter what period of warranty or guarantee was offered, if the issue comes down to a manufacturing/design issue, you in theory have reasonable grounds to make a claim on the manufacturer/supplier (in fact, I think it's the supplier, not the manufacturer, who has the liability). Don't know if there any posters around who have a good grounding in consumer law, who might be able to clarify these points, but have you tried the consumer association (i.e. Which Magazine) - I belive that once you join them for a year, about 30 quid, you have access to a helpline who can raise your queries with a solicitor/lawyer. D Edited by sharknose |
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Dergside
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000 |
Posted: 09-March-2005 at 17:18 |
Sharknose The logic you use is reasonable, but the response from BMW would be that there is no design flaw. They would point to all the nikasil cars that they haven't replaced engines on and the wide variety of engines from other manufacturers that use nikasil and don't experience the problem. I don't particularly agree with them, but its a defendable position. In my opinion a part of the problem is that the duff blocks can't be bored out and fitted with steel liners. I think I read somewhere that the reason was the gap between the cylinders in the block is too narrow to cope with 2 cylinders next to each other both being bored out. If that were an option, I think fewer people would be concerned about the nikasil problem because the cost of remedial action would be less. |
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