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chippeduk
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Posted: 05-July-2005 at 18:05 | |
did you get the new nylon bush as well ? this will transform the shifter making it far more tighter than a worn unit.
i posted on a few forums that out of all the mods i did i rated this as the best value one i ever did on my bmw. |
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thepits
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Posted: 06-July-2005 at 18:42 | |
Thank you for your "Quality" advice, must admit though that this is the first time I've heard of this FACT! Edited by thepits |
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falkster
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Posted: 06-July-2005 at 19:44 | |
I didnt have to bend mine!! So Im sure they wouldnt need bending at all as my M3 is no different to any other M3
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medlow
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Posted: 07-July-2005 at 02:16 | |
Yep, got the bush too.. Parts arriving today at BMW.. Not sure when fitting will take place tho..Will post the results.
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chippeduk
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Posted: 07-July-2005 at 02:57 | |
it is commonly known that many times the lower arm needs bending and in fact this is also written in almost every decent review about fitting them. why would you use a shifter that requires modding when you have been informed that there is a shifter that 100% doesnt need anything to be modded and shifts slightly quicker and smoother than the one you intend to use ??? |
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thepits
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Posted: 11-July-2005 at 13:54 | |
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chippeduk
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Posted: 11-July-2005 at 15:12 | |
thats where your wrong. the m3 unit is cheaper by 2.16 as for the not knowing, get yourself on the zone where it seems a large proportion of people who have done the conversion have had to bend the lower arm. |
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Austen_e30
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 02:29 | |
So how did it go??? Going to order he bits for my e30 325 in the next couple of days. I haven't stripped the linkage out yet but i suspect there is some wear between the linkage and selector rod as there is a lot of play, what parts would need replacing to cure this?? |
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thepits
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 17:01 | |
Yawn! I'm bored with this thread now
We're never going to agree, so......... |
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chippeduk
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 17:10 | |
its good to dissagree. it means many sides are put forward. the fact is we are both right, they both work, the only difference being one "at times" requires a small modifiaction, the other doesnt. |
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Rhys
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 17:15 | |
Nice to see a harty discussion without handbags
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falkster
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 17:19 | |
I was gonna respond but I dont have a handbag lol
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chippeduk
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 17:20 | |
to be fair, either way its money well spent because when they are on its sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooo much more pleasurable to drive.
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thepits
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 17:21 | |
Sorry, coudln't resist this
"at times"? or "common" Can't be both, which is it? do i feel humble pie coming on here? |
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chippeduk
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 17:23 | |
no humble pie. in reality it is more often than not but i didnt want to drag an argument on. |
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thepits
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 17:29 | |
Go on lets! You started off saying "It's common to have to modify the part" I think you'll find that the only posts on this thread to say that are yours! All other posts by people that have fitted them seem to indicate that the normal / standard BMW part has fitted without a problem Now you're saying "some times" or "more often than not" which is totally different to "common" And where's your proof? Certainly not in this thread!! |
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chippeduk
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 17:36 | |
can you point out the people inthis thread who have said they done the mod and didnt need to mod it other than you and one other.
also, i reckon (like yourself) that the proof is in the pudding. get yourself on the e30zone and check out the DOZENS of people who have done the mod and needed to bend the pipe.
hell, the fitting guide they have explains that you need to bend it too. availible here: http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?name=tech&page=tech nz3.htm
note the part where it says this:
Next the selector rod needs some careful modification. We need to place a slight bend in the selector rod so that it clears the vibration damper on the prop shaft. This is caused by the extra length of the new Z3 shift lever below the ball joint. The best way to do this is to place it in a vice. As we didn't have a vice to hand, we made good use of a hammer. Place the selector rod between two supports and give it a few sharp hits with a hammer. It should look something like this.
here are the pics. before
after
its not that i like to be right all the time, i just really study things before i comment on them as my business doesnt stand mistakes. |
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falkster
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 18:36 | |
Is this till going on??? Ive done the mod and unless Im retarded it works a treat |
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chippeduk
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 18:39 | |
I cant see the point in dragging it on either. a point was made and thats all really. either avenue people care to follow will reap nice rewards, the only difference being one will almost certainly require you to bend the bottom rod. on the m3 it is less common but on almost every other application you will almost always have to do it. |
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Rhys
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Posted: 13-July-2005 at 18:46 | |
..neither can I. Veiws have been expressed, points put forward. Time to draw to a close. |
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