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    Posted: 12-February-2003 at 15:36
Don't know if anyone else has told you - but look at the rear wheel arches - that's where you will see rust - if there is any.  <SCRIPT language=javascript>postamble();
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-January-2003 at 14:13
BTW, the M3 has MORE torque than the 325i. Its got more power too .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-January-2003 at 09:49

Cheers fellas for all the advice.

I live in Manchester and go over to Blackburn for the footy quite a lot as I'm a ST holder, so a trip to Powerflow is on the cards soon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-January-2003 at 09:31

MancRover - My exhaust was fitted by Powerflow in Burnley, it consists of a Magnex backbox (looks the biz and dosen't sound like a rally car - just a nice 6 cyl warm note) and the rest was custom made and fitted by themselves all for £190 or£250 including cat replacement box. I have this setup on both cars. The guys at Powerflow know what they're doing and I was well impressed. My exhausts were'nt initially replaced for the performance, I just felt the sensible option would be to rule out the need for a new exhaust every 2 yrs with a stainless setup, looks better too!

The chip and filter came with the car-not sure which one it is, one of the receipts quotes "ECU engine management upgrade". My first 325i sport was standard and, from what i can remember, felt just as quick. They are still very quick as standard cars. I agree with paul325i that some chips have been reported as making things worse. 

An old performance BMW magazine i owned tested 10 chips, including the standard BMW version, and run 10 individual 0-60 tests with each; some achieved 6.7, others 7.35. Averaged over the 10 tests (believe it or not) one of the best was 7.05 from a standard 325i sport. They then went on to test the overall driveability and throttle response and apart from the 'Superchip' version 'coming up trumps' the standard came out one of the best again; some made the car worse. I am quoting a 5 yrs+ old magazine here so things may have improved since.

Too be honest the standard manual car is more than enough to keep me entertained. With speed cameras and all that stuff its hardly worth spending hundreds to gain half a second. Without BIG money you probably won't achieve a major difference. I've pipped the older standard impreza and a boxster , kept up with my mates prodrive version impreza, matched a friends moded cav turbo 4x4 so that will do for me.

My convert is a nice looker as its the ltd edition mauritius blue/full Lotus white leather motorsport, colour coded hardtop etc but is just sh*te at getting away as it is the ltd automatic version(escort si convert 'had me off' up to 70 the other day),great once over 30mph and on country lanes. Once on the move its alright, the kickdown will stick you in first at around 20-25 for example, you need to learn a lot to use the automatic well and get the right rev ranges. So again just the exhaust for the lifetime thing and a set of 17" alpinas (when the missus can be arsed keeping them away from kerbs)will do for me.

Bit of advice- keep the original suspension setup, it works the best all round. Trust me on this as i've spent a bomb in the past on variations from the norm. My 318is and 325 sports had mtech and always felt the best, its not everyday that you want to drive like a looney, sometimes it's nice to be comfortable. Even the 17" don't look that much better than the cross spokes and comfort is lost.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-January-2003 at 00:23

 

  K&N 57i induction kit, Mongoose stainless steel exhaust system, FSE power boost valve (rising rate fuel pressure regulator), a superchip apparently is quite good but some of my friends have experienced misfires and starting problems with one fitted, think their ok though have it rolling roaded while they fit it.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-January-2003 at 16:36
ajbm325ic - what have you done in terms of chipping/exhaust etc.  I have just bought a mint '91 325is for a fraction over £4k and am having terrific fun in it.  I am keen to keep it in good condition, but may consider 'improving' it.  Any details, advice would be appreciated!
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  Buy one with an LSD much better for fun, mine hasn't got one at the moment but next on the list once its running properly! My friend has one with an LSD fitted and in the dry he can take roundabouts alot faster than me as i just light up one rear wheel and he swats and f**ks off.  Saying that you don't need to go out and buy a sport you can pick up a LSD for a couple of hundred quid and fit it yourself quite easily plus the sport is quick off the mark but mates one only pulls 140mph and i sail past. not on the road of course...cough.

Buy a three door with as much of the service history as you can find make sure the clutch is ok mines just starting to go at 96,000, check the power steering rack for leaks and fuction as a new one is alot, make sure the engine is a bit tappy at the top end as people often over tighten the valve clearences to stop them tapping which leads to ruined valves, cambelt service every 30 odd thousand on the M20 i think, rust under the rear lights bottom of the storage bins in the boot and check the rear suspension bushes are ok as they are tricky to change, a really notchy and whining gearbox means not looked after or skanky little bit of 15 year old oil left in the bottom, seals go on gearbox and rear diff.

apart from that can think of much else.



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I have owned a few E30s over the years and found them all excellent, taking great pride in the "Sunday wax".

Here goes-1996 318i 2 dr - great 1st BMW, 1989 325ise 4 dr - loads of comfort with all the bits and performance, 1991 325i sport - just amazing in every way, a real solid and sure footed feeling compared to the se model ( I changed my 944s for this car after one wasted me). 1991 318is - fantastic compromise but proved a bit tempramental and expensive for bits & to look after.

After owning some fairly newish cars i have gone back to what is best -E30s: 1991 325i sport (again) & a 1991 325 ltd motorsport edition convert. I hope these things last as i never wanna part with them after spending some good money getting them to drive and look like new. 

My advice due to experience is buy a MANUAL 325i sport and look after it, you wont be disappointed. When i had other my other E30s i was always planning an mtec kit with all the sport bits, then realised I might as well buy the real thing. £3500 should get you a real cracker. Replacement bits are reasonably cheap aswell. This car will keep up with most modern sports. Mine has a chip,stainless and filter and flys whilst still looking very standard.

Regarding the suspension, since checking with BMW, the inserts for the 325i mtec setup are the same part number as the standard 325i ones. It is only the springs that are different. £240 all four. I have found the mtech the best.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-January-2003 at 12:03

My advice is:

     If you fancy E30 M3 performance but don't fancy the cost, don't bother with the 325. What you want is an E30 320is coupe (Italian import car only - known as the "Italian M3"). Same shape as the 325 but added bonus of Mtech body kit, 192bhp (thats almost 100bhp per litre!!) and only 1/2 a second slower than the M3 on the 0 - 60 scale.

     Have one myself and planning to get is fitted out and ready for track days to kick some M3 ass (another bonus is that the 320 can be tuned to get revs upto 10,000 thus giving a scream at a lower cost)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-December-2002 at 01:13
would any one find a bmw e 30 m 3 ohhhhhhh i hope i can't find this car car of my dreams if a ny one have this car or know osme want to sell it please pm or send me a mail
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-December-2002 at 15:04
They've mentioned the sport spec suspension on tourings a few times in Total BMW, although I seem to recall it being specific to the 325i models but I could be wrong! I've only changed the springs on mine, the dampers were fine. It seems to be a nice compromise, the rides a little firmer but it's not uncomfortable, and there's little or no wallowing, the weight appears to be well contained. I suppose the lightness of the steering could be down to the weight of the engine, there's a little bit of effort required with mine. That or I need start going to the gym! The strutbrace alone is worth getting as I was really surprised the amount of difference it made.

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I also understand that the tourings have the sport spec set up fitted as standard where the suspension is concerned. But I suppose the additional weight can make them a little more unwieldy!

My wife currently has a 316i Touring, a late one (L plate) and although just a 1.6i, it's fairly frugal, and does return a good performance when a standard load is in (2 adults, 2 kids) however, even though we've had a new rack fitted the steering is quite light and vague at times.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-December-2002 at 18:47
The only problem I've found driving a touring is the handling is a bit on the soft side and it's not quite as agile as a saloon. I've fitted Eibach springs and a strut brace and it's made a world of difference, lot's more feedback through the steering and it stays flat through the corners, highly recommended!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-December-2002 at 20:59
lsd is a must if you want some rwd fun, much more control, just ask the very short lived tyres on my recently dismantled e28 m5. ( e30 donor parts ) and even fitting one to my 320i se (as well as m3 suspension) in preperation for engine transplant  has made it more fun
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I had a 325i SE when new, and loved it, I want it back please! however my choice would be a late 325i Touring, as I agree with 325SME, may be not as much fun as a 2 door, but it has the same pedigree, and is a real sleeper. Find an Alpina touring or even a 4x4 and surprise them all.

Would like an M3, but for day to day driving a 325 in either SE or sport guise is great, 4 door or 2 door.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-December-2002 at 13:24

I had a 325, 88 with very low spec. It was great to drive, you could find the limit if you tried without the LSD, great fun. Bags of torque.

Upgraded to an E30 M3, not as much torque when standard but mega fun to drive.

 

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I'm on my second 325i and would be hard pushed to have anything else. First one was an 88 SE saloon with full electrics, a/c and leather. Did over 30,000 miles in three and half years and she only broke down once when water got into the injection wiring. No LSD, but did have one VERY sideways moment. Unfortunately she got written off (nothing to do with going sideways)so bought a touring as a replacement. Have done 30,000 miles in 21 months and have only suffered one breakdown because the fuel pump was knackered. This has got an LSD but it's limits are far higher than mine at the moment! Can't knock owning a touring, I like the idea of overtaking people in an estate car. Makes a great Q car, especially if you take the 325i badge off the back!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2002 at 09:53

These are a bit more than 'quite good' - these are what soem buyers have said - and our BMW Guides are generally longer as we developed them later  ( and teh Club would'nt have them on teh site if they weren't worth teh money!):

'for ONLY £5.00, you really can't go wrong' Porsche Club of America - Germany Region

'The information is great'

' ..very welcome..the information is pertinent & to the point..a useful overview of a Porsche model' - 911 & Porsche World

'I think you've got ... something really good here' Porsche Club of America - San Francisco Region

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2002 at 02:37

For buying guides try 'Total bmw' they seem to me as being quite good.  

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