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    Posted: 03-December-2005 at 18:46

Hello fellas

Replaced the electric fan in my E30 M3 today.  Beautiful job, very happy, but a problem.  The thing keeps blowing the standard 15amp fuse on the low speed fan.  Even with a brand new fan! Ive temporarily put in a 20amp, but I fear this will burn out the ballast resisitor on the fan.

Anyone have any idea why this might be?

Zain.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2005 at 19:22
Just a thought, could it be a dodgy relay?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2005 at 19:53

Would not have thought it would be the relay. But hard to tell without being there. I would try the following (but completely at your risk):

Disconnect the fan wiring as near to it as possible. Connector C113 behind left headlamp area (from the book -not from checking car)

Disconnect the dual temperature switch and join together the Green/black and black wires.

Start the engine.

If the fuse blows it is a wiring fault (shorting to earth after the fuse).

If it does not it looks like a fan fault. Plug in connector C113 and if the fuse blows it confirms the fault is with the fan (or the last bit of wiring)

Fan wiring diagram

Hope that helps

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2005 at 03:53
Before you try anything else I would check to see if the fan has been
wired up incorrectly when it was manufactured!

A couple of weeks ago was helping Richard Baxter trace some problems
with the fan on his car:

As with yours the fan had seized and was blowing the 15A low speed
resistor. He changed the fan for a brand new unit but stangely the 15A
fuse kept blowing. In addition when the car got warmed up the fan
struggled to keep the engine running down at nominal temperature. We
did loads of tests on the circuit and everything was fine, so we thought
the fan must be faulty so we did some checks:

When taking measurements from the high speed and low speed
terminals on the harness side connector, everything was correct.

We then did a bench test on the fan and connected a power supply
directly to what should have been the low speed and then the high speed
terminals - and guess what they were reversed, hence why the low speed
fuse was blowing (as it was running the high speed fan) and why at higher
temps it was actually the lower speed fan cutting in- so the car could
never cool properly!

Comparing the old fan with the new one we confirmed the wires were
reversed on the new unit and so switched them over. (Very easy to do,
you unclip the connector block, switch the pins over and clip it back
together).

Did the above and fan worked perfectly - although it really was the last
place you would check as you just dont expect faulty wiring.

So there you go, check the wires on your old fan and the new one, if they
are different swap them over and it should work ok.

Richard has contacted BMW about this as we thought it could be batch
problem and result in quite a few cars suffering.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2005 at 12:43

Sorted!  Cheers Rob, you were absolutely right.  Unbelievably, the black and red wires were wrong way round on the brand new OEM fan.  Never could anyone imagine that happening.  Im gonna ring Simon at C3 tomorrow and tell him.

Cheers fellas

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-December-2005 at 04:39

Another thing to check is that the wires are correctly fitted on the temp switch on the thermostat. When the wiring is repaired, quite often the high & low temp wires are refitted in the wrong way to the connector ! causing exactly the same probs as above.

Here is the correct wiring for the fan plug

Pin 1 Ground , brown wire from fan , brown wire to loom.

Pin 2 High speed , Red wire from fan , Black wire, blue stripe to loom.

Pin 3 Low speed, Black wire from fan, Black wire with green stripe to loom.

I will post a diagram of the plug on the 'stat housing soon.

Regards

Phil

p.s. had a similiar  experience a few years ago when BMW had a batch of E28 M5 gearknobs which had been stitched on the the gaiter 90deg out of sync. I re - ordered 5 times until I recieved one which was made correctly !



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-December-2005 at 10:28

I bought my fan from C3 recently and it had the wires crossed too. Must be a whole batch of them with the crossed wires.

Rob.

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