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BM Fan 
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 Topic: E9 3.0 CS / CSA / CSLPosted: 03-February-2006 at 07:12 |
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Guys - sorry if this is cross posting as i've started a thread in the 6
series technical forum along the same vein but it was sugested that
here might be better.
I am toying with an idea of a classsic and really like the E9. Does anyone have a rough idea of values and I fully appreciate that condition will determine everything but lets assume that I want the upper end of the market so condition muct be high but not necessarliy concours. Saw this one and think she looks well but hard to tell from the pics Link Edited by BM Fan |
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!) Previous Models 2001 E39 520i Auto 1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual 1996 E36 328i Coupe 1997 E36 318i Conv 1992 E36 316i Sln 
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Daxklynsmith
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Joined: 15-October-2003 Location: Galway Status: Offline Points: 232 |
Posted: 03-February-2006 at 16:17 |
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Hi Martin, The first decision you are going to have make is usage/cost and that leads to the next, Auto or Manual. If it's going to be a daily driver whatever you buy is going to have a limited life span. If it's going to be a dry Weather, weekend toy then your entry level is going to be a 3.0 Csi manual ranging through CSL's up to the Batmobile.A Genuine, and I repeat Genuine bat is going to start at about 45 and range all the way past 60K. Please beware, there are many sharks in this water. ( A case in point is the Canary Island Bat advertised on this forum, People whose judgement I trust have flown there and it aint as good as advertised\) If Fun is all you want, you can pick up Carburetted 3.0 CS's failrly cheaply,if they have had the the Auto/Manual conversion make sure a) that it was the Getrag 265 5 speed rather than the Getrag 260 Gearbox used and b)that the conversion was done by someone who knew what they were doing. My personal opinion: The German one is overpriced for an Automatic in a country that also suffers from Rust. Unless it's coming out for showdays, Irish Roads are'nt conducive to Real CSL batmobile use.(Hell, none of the CS models like 100k/hour, never mind 50?) As an often Driver, a normal CSL,with its thinner Ally is going to be an expensive repair if someone makes a mistook. A nice 3.0 CSi (M) thats had a Good respray, preferably in it's original colour, owned by someone for at least a couple of years in the 12-15K mark and that does'nt make a crunching noise when you jack it up is going to give you plenty of fun. My .03c's worth Dax (I love my Kickdown switch)
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BM Fan
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Posted: 03-February-2006 at 18:04 |
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Dax - cheers for that. The auto one while a pretty car isn't
really mu cup of tea. As for the Batmobile, a little too loud for
a Sunday cruise.
I think the approriate model would be a nice clean 3.0 CSL, 5 speed manual. Emailed a few people including the one mentioned above. Quoted 45k and hence had a bit of a wobble about the values. Ballpark price would be around 15k but would be adjustable depending on the car. So what do you think - would a nice CSL, 5 speed be achievable on a sub 20k budget? |
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!) Previous Models 2001 E39 520i Auto 1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual 1996 E36 328i Coupe 1997 E36 318i Conv 1992 E36 316i Sln
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3.0csl
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Posted: 03-February-2006 at 18:16 |
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BM Fan, they are but you have got to be careful as often the better looking cars are the ones hiding the rot! If you need a hand looking at one I'd be more than happy to help. Where in Ireland are you? Regards,
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Rohan Murphy
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30CSL
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Posted: 03-February-2006 at 18:32 |
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Unless you want the CSL for the badge or for typical fast driving on track or down country lanes, the CSi is actually a better bet than the CSL. They are a fair bit cheaper, actually rarer, and have a steel bodywork that is stronger than the alloy panels on a CSL. Much cheaper repair bills if someone else puts a dent in it. The engine pumps out the same 200 bhp and the RHD CSL versions aren't that much lighter.
5-speed gearbox is much better, but two tings to watch out for: 1. What do you want to use the car for, the sport- (or close ratio "dog-leg") gearbox is excellent for driving on track and country lanes, whereas the "overdrive" gearbox is better for cruising along the Motorways. 2. The gearbox is longer so the crossmember has to be repositioned and the propshaft shortened. A good CSi can be had for 8-10k, a CSL up to 15k. Main concern is the bodywork, expensive to fix and some lousy restorations around. If you want a proper lightweight CSL then you have to look around for a left-hooker, but for any other E9 I would not scan the German car ads. That particular one is too expensive, besides the 17" alloys make the drive too harsh!! 16" Alpina's are just great, from an E12 or E28. As for the Canary Island one I would only touch that if the price was halved, I have seen pictures, maybe no rust on the body, but needs a lot of attention. |
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BM Fan
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Posted: 03-February-2006 at 18:46 |
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Thanks guys. The car would be warehoused most of the time.
Carclub days, the odd Weekend and the odd Trackday. Maybe even a
trip to the Ring.
LHD would not be a problem and I like the CSL history. I appreciate the alu parts being more trouble and expensive but thats still the one that I keep coming back to. As for my location, I am in Dublin |
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!) Previous Models 2001 E39 520i Auto 1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual 1996 E36 328i Coupe 1997 E36 318i Conv 1992 E36 316i Sln
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Daxklynsmith
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Posted: 03-February-2006 at 19:01 |
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Hi Martin, Both Rohan and Gus are giving you very sound, good advice. Have emailed Bren Boeree in Holland with the link and will forward his reply. Bren tends to know an awful lot of E9's on the continent @Rohan, hey friend, long time no chat, will be in Dublin Early March |
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3.0csl
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Posted: 04-February-2006 at 07:29 |
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Hey Dax, hope all is well with you. Good to see you haven't dissapered into a pothole in Galway never to be seen again! Im back in London now and wont be in Dublin for a while unfrotunately. Driving the old M6 around at the moment, such an awesome old car. Gus, hows the Bat? Any pictures of it? Regards,
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Daxklynsmith
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Posted: 04-February-2006 at 08:50 |
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Hey Rohan, Glad to hear you are removing e only black spot on your record (The Merc SL daily driver Martin, Bren who is the Netherlands Coupe Club Orgeyniser, emailed the following regarding that other CSL you were interested in. If you follow the link,and do a bit of a search thru, there are some amazing CSL's in that collection. " Hi Dick, I really don’t know this car, I heart about the guy how is selling this car. It must be somewhere the German border. The CSL looks good on the pictures, what is the price off this car? I have seen the batmobiel and the Luigi last September in a collection off a Dutch collector, He ones more then 20 CSL! You can see pictures off this BMW Coupé Club meeting on a site from one off our members. www.bmw30cs.tk If You Friend make the contact whit the seller and ask for the address I can go there for a first look, if He wants me to do that. Do You feel good in We live half time in Poland, ( go to NL on Monday) In a couple off years we stay here for 100%, in the mean time driving between two houses. Driving is not so bad, I have a daily runner 2003 745I, super car and last year I bought in Germany, ( from an old man, 81, really) An 850 I in brand new condition, Granddad used it only for Its fun the drive this car, it is really a sports car. OK, if You need more information, just give a shout, Best regards, Bren " Regards, |
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3.0csl
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Posted: 04-February-2006 at 09:59 |
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The Merc is far too precious to me for these winter months! She is only laid up temporarily. A different car but gorgeous in her own way!
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Rohan Murphy
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Horsetan
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Posted: 04-February-2006 at 10:35 |
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BM Fan
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Posted: 05-February-2006 at 07:34 |
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DAx - cheers for that. I emailed him on Friday so hace yet to get a reply.
I will let you know what comes back with. |
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!) Previous Models 2001 E39 520i Auto 1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual 1996 E36 328i Coupe 1997 E36 318i Conv 1992 E36 316i Sln
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