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    Posted: 14-August-2006 at 08:40

"You're the best candidate for cruise control I've seen in ages. "

Not a bad idea, might be cheaper than paying all those fines. The way it is at the moment, i'm in danger of losing both my licenses

Would it be difficult to have cruise control fitted to a '92 E34? Any idea of the cost?

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you need to get to a cobbler and get him to loosen up on those lead weights in the sole of your right shoe if you can't maintain a constant speed in between the checks of the speedo in your regular mirror checks and instrument scans that you should be doing as a rule when you drive....

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Originally posted by flyingalexf68 flyingalexf68 wrote:

You're the best candidate for cruise control I've seen in ages.


Have to admit since doing my steering wheel upgrade this is the best damn thing i've ever had in the car. It is very easy to let the speed build up without realising it in a car with a decent engine and i've been guilty of it in the past, hovering around the 140kph mark on the motorway is very easy to do unless you really keep an eye on the speedo (and i'd rather keep my eyes on the road!)

Since having cruise i can happily 'set and forget', i often use it around Swords for the 60kph spots too where the Gardai are prone to nabbing people.

I'd thought about laser detectors for a while too but to be honest bar the wee hours of the morning i never bother speeding, will be keeping the mental driving for the track :D (anyone fancy a trip to Anglesey btw?)

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ive got a s3 neo for fixed camaras with the srd100 behind the front grille for mobile camaras cost me brand new for the pair of ebay £160.

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Originally posted by flyingalexf68 flyingalexf68 wrote:

You're the best candidate for cruise control I've seen in ages.




the thing about the laser guns is that they take .4 of a second to take a reading.  all in all it probably takes about 5-7 secs to get a reading.  if you're caning it your not going to be slowed down enough in time anyway by the time you react to the detector the gun will nearly have its reading.

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I usually keep my eyes on the road, not on the speedo :-))))  I find it to be much safer :-)

 

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Originally posted by 525i24v 525i24v wrote:

I have no real sense of speed in the car

thats what your speedometer is for....


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Originally posted by Dergside Dergside wrote:

Secondly, gatso camera's are passive devices and don't give off a signal until you activate them (by speeding).  For that reason the detectors are of limited use.  They work very well for the radar type equipment because it gives off a signal that can be picked up in good time, but generally the first you'll know about the laser kit is when you have activated it.

GATSO cameras are not passive devices, they give off radar signals all the time which are picked up by radar detectors, the best detectors pick up signals from a rear-facing camera from about half a mile away but as you pass the signal gets much stronger, same as the range is much further if you're heading towards the camera


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if you're going down the radar detector route (and i wouldn't necessarily advise this because of the much-publicised changes to the Road Safety Bill if/when it finally comes into play) don't buy a cheap one - the £90 Snoopers and Bels are next to useless

I've owned a Bel Euro 550 for many years and I wouldn't be without it, it consisently scored highest in group tests but you would expect so given the price it cost (RRP was £500, I got mine via a site called "radargirl" for £300 at the time)

I also use the pocketgpsworld.com speed camera POI database on my TomTom Navigator satnav

I would like a radar jammer, sorry automated garage door opener , but these are highly illegal and probably not worth the risk



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They will eventually start doing like the continent, timed over a certain distance on a motorway. really the speed limits are a joke over here. most accidents are happening on small country roads and the like by not speeding but not reading the road ahead of you. imho

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Gatso vans and static cameras use radar and handheld speed guns use laser but you can also be detected going away from a speed check zone so if you are using a laser jammer unless you have front and rear protection you can get caught out look at this site www.lidatek.com for laser jammers much cheaper but you won't get them past customs as they will sieze it on entry in this country unless you are going out to the states you can get it sent to where you are staying and then bring it home in your luggage, as the lads have said ease of on the gas pedal and keep the eyes open but the new system up the north is a different story it times you speed between two points and catches you out..      www.beltronics.com another good site

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Actually, i'm confused :-) How does a radar detector work? It picks up the signal that the radar uses to scan for speeding cars, is that right? And the radar detector picks up on that signal and alerts the driver, right? So why doesn't a radar detector work on all sorts of speed detection devices? they all have to use some sort of signal to scan for speeding vehicles i'd think... Does anyone know of a good website where radars and radar detectors are explained?

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Originally posted by 525i24v 525i24v wrote:

Does this mean that the radar detector works with the handheld speed guns but not with the fixed ones?

Dave

Basically yes, but remember, the greater threat from Gatso's comes from the mobile ones than the fixed ones.  The Gatso van's, the newer Galaxy's with Gatso on board and the tripod based camera's are your main concern.

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I fully agree with you, but i sometimes find it quite difficult to keep the 525 below the speed limit. I have no real sense of speed in the car, and being just 10 km/h over the limit is enough to get an €80 fine, which i want to avoid. The idea is not to go belting down the road at 200 km/h, because that's just madness, but all i want to do is avoid those fines you get when you're only marginally over the limit because you weren't watching your speedo for a split second but watching the road instead :-)

 

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I agree, even though ive only been driving a year i know most of the speed traps locally (hopefully!) and its not like i condone speeding or anything but i dont think a few km over on a dual carriageway is doing harm its unfortunately the most likely place to be caught, near me anyway as i use the shannon to limerick road a couple of times daily,

I too like yourself have thought long and hard about buying a detector/jammer and it seems as though a lot of bucks need to be spent to get one that is 100% risk free or thereabouts, plus it brought to mind maybe with this it would cause me to drive faster in general thinking "ah sure they cant catch me" and thats not really a road i want to go down if you excuse the pun.

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Dave, I know you're worried about getting points but in this day and age (and especially Bank holiday weekends) you just can't speed anymore. Leave it for motorways and the roads you know well. I know where the gardai usually have the speed traps, or camera vans and make sure I'm under the limit at those points. Just take your time.
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"Secondly, gatso camera's are passive devices and don't give off a signal until you activate them (by speeding).  For that reason the detectors are of limited use.  They work very well for the radar type equipment because it gives off a signal that can be picked up in good time, but generally the first you'll know about the laser kit is when you have activated it."

Does this mean that the radar detector works with the handheld speed guns but not with the fixed ones?

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I know a guy that has a remote electric gate opening device in the front of his e39. There are two radio/lazer wave emitter things that sit nicely in the grill. The idea is that when you're nearly home your gate will receive the signal coming from your car and the gates will be open before you get to them. Unfortunately this thing also jams radar signals from speed guns until you turn it off with the switch under the steering wheel. Very cheeky but legal AFAIK.
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Two issues that I'm aware of.

First, the use of a detector is illegal in this country (and I think mere possesion is too) and now that the Gardai have the power to do random stops I'd say the chances of getting caught with one have increased.  Any cases of using them that have come before the courts have been dealt with harshly.

Secondly, gatso camera's are passive devices and don't give off a signal until you activate them (by speeding).  For that reason the detectors are of limited use.  They work very well for the radar type equipment because it gives off a signal that can be picked up in good time, but generally the first you'll know about the laser kit is when you have activated it.

I do know a guy that had one some years ago and also kept a dummy one in the car (a shell with no working parts.  If he was pulled over he'd slip the real one in to his pocket and if they wanted to find the dummy one they could, but he seemed to think that as long as the real one was on his person that they couldn't search him for it.  Don't know if that would hold up legally.



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