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Any UK places do that kit?
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Not sure, I'm sure if you bought it online anyone in the UK could fit it
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Starfury Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-June-2007 at 13:15
Timescales are not great which is why i was asking... lets hope that BMW are the customer focused company I think they should be and I will still buy an M5 in 18 months time. Otherwise it might be time for a change.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JohnH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-June-2007 at 13:57

Based on the general experience I'd say your car will be off the road for about 2 - 3 weeks which ever way it gets repaired

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the garage that going to weld the repair then put a steel reinforcing plate over the lot can do it in the day
 and get the wheel bearing done at the same time
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Update: Sytner Solihull BMW inspected the car today and confirmed that it was a subframe tear. They are now contacting BMW to request they pay for the repair and according to the body shop manager 99 times out of 100 they will do. They have to checked the insurance history to make sure it hasnt been (and i quote) "been a category 5 write off in the past"

So hopefully it will be fixed Free of Charge.
Although I cant understand how they gonna take 2 whole weeks to do the repair, i mean come on. 10 days working 8 hours a day??
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They basically disassemble the car from in front of the rear seats, both trim and mechanical parts, cut out a whole section of the guts of the bodyshell and chassis, rig it and weld in replacement parts, paint it and then reassemble the whole lot.  This job is major surgery.

If it could reasonably be done easier then I'm sure BMW would do it that way and save themselves a whole lot of money because the volume of these that seem to have issues suggest it must be costing them bigtime.

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So if I have ICE installed in the boot is this likely to destroy my cabling?
Also do you think they would fix my wheel bearing whilst they got it open and not charge me £300?
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They should put things back as they find them.  Take a few pics to be sure.

Not sure about the bearing because they may drop the subframe and axle as a unit.  Its always worth a try though!

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Update:

My 328i SE has gone into Sytner Solihull BMW today and I won't see her now for at least two weeks.
I have asked them to inspect the wheel bearing and try and get BMW to pay for it because a friend who used to work for BMW said it was most likely caused by the subframe/chassis problem putting more load onto the wheel bearing. I don't know if that is true or not, but what have I got to lose.
If they don't what should I be paying for a rear wheel bearing to be fixed both at a main dealer and a indy?

I will keep you updated of anything that happens.
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update: Ok its been a very long two weeks driving a Focus CMax with rear brakes that sound like theres nothing left of the discs let alone the pads.
Anyway Sytner reckon that the wheel bearing damage has nothing to do with the subframe defect and they said there is no way BMW would offer payment. Anyone like to counter that?


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To be honest, its probably stretching things to try and make the link.  It was worth a try to get it done but since they have pushed back there's not too much to argue with. 

You could take the approach that since they will have already taken a lot of the back end of the car apart to do the repair that the labour element of the repair is reduced from normal and that the job should be priced as such.  If they don't bite on that allude to the fact that you will get a specialist to do that work at a lower labour rate.  They may take the view that a lower level of labour, and revenue, is better than none.

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have you checked the bush on the diff if this is torn it would give you thes problems
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Apparently Sytner BMW in Solihull dont have a bodyshop on site and so they couldn't have done it whilst it was apart anyway.

They also managed to identify (from a quick visual inspection whilst doing the 4 wheel alignment) that my trackrod ends, 2 sets of bushes, my thermostat and a few other bits need replacing. Also its due a coolant change and a an oil service.
Funny how my thermostat needs looking at yet the engine temp is always fine.
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Originally posted by Starfury Starfury wrote:

Apparently Sytner BMW in Solihull dont have a bodyshop on site and so they couldn't have done it whilst it was apart anyway.

They also managed to identify (from a quick visual inspection whilst doing the 4 wheel alignment) that my trackrod ends, 2 sets of bushes, my thermostat and a few other bits need replacing. Also its due a coolant change and a an oil service.
Funny how my thermostat needs looking at yet the engine temp is always fine.

Thermostat probably has a slight weep, can't see what other fault they could diagnose from a visual inspection, unless their technicians have x-ray vision.......... I'd get a second opinion on the whole lot, but worth doing the thermostat at same time as the coolant change if it's due and there is a problem with it. 


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Hi I have a problem. 

I have a 323ci 1999T coupe.

Every time i: start moving, stop moving, heavy breaking, sudden gear changing i hear a creaking noise from my rear passenger side.  It doesnt happen all the time, just on th eodd occaison, also, it never happens at high speeds.

Could this be my part leather trim, or something more sinister.

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CrazeUK - firstly welcome, secondly, yes it could be more sinister.  You need to get it up on a ramp and take a look at the subframe mounts.  The passenger side rear seems to be the one to worry about.  Hopefully you'll be lucky and find its just a top mount or something but check it out.
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Hi Dergside, thanks for the welcome and response.

Thesubframe mount, i read on a search in google that BMW replace this for free because its a factory fault..is that correct?

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BMW seem to be doing plenty of goodwill fixes for this but its looked at on a case by case business.  There are a few folks on here that have had the job done, including me getting it sorted on my sisters car.  Its a big job because effectively the whole rear centre floor section is removed and replaced, big structural work.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CrazeUK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-August-2007 at 23:50

Wow. sounds like a hell of a cosly hjob..oh i hope they do mine.

The thing is the previous owner asked BMW what it was when it went for a service, they replied..err we dont know

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