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DecMcD ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 29-September-2006 Location: Cork, Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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I'm looking for a little advice. I am thinking of replacing my 1999 523i SE Touring Auto with either a 520(2.2) or 525 facelifted model with similiar spec. Can anyone tell me from experience if there is a very noticable difference in performance with either of these models compared to the 523. I intend to stay with the steptronic gearbox. Many thanks. Dec. |
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larzyh ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 25-February-2007 Location: Limerick Status: Offline Points: 633 |
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A friend of mine had a facelifted 520i Touring (2.2) with an automatic gearbox and my dad drove an E39 528i for a few years. The autobox is always going to blunt performance a bit but I thought even the 2.2 was pretty quick if not blistering; I would suggest that for a daily driver it will be more than enough for most. Remember also that the 2.2 has nearly the same power output as the "old" 2.5, as fitted to the 523i, so the difference in performance between the two is likely to be marginal. If you´re happy with the level of performance from your current car, I would go with the 520i; if you want a bit more the 525i. Good luck. |
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Previously or currently, in the family: '77 E21 320, '78 E21 320, '79 E21 320, '87 E28 520i, '88 E30 325iC, '95 E34 525i, '98 E39 528i, '98 Z3 2.5, '98 E38 740iL, '95 E36 Compact, '99 E36 318iT, '02 E46 318iT, '96 E34 525tdsT, '98 E38 740iL... |
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flyingalexf68 ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-April-2006 Location: 53°19’59,6°14’56 Status: Offline Points: 2581 |
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I'd go for the 525. The 2.2 is a nice engine but there's very little torque low
down especially compared to your 523. If you're buying an auto I'd recommend the 530d above all else though. |
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m3sport ![]() Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 27-February-2007 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 194 |
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A friend of mine has a 530d and he had it re-maped. On a standing start, it ant far behing an e36 m3, it will surprise you. Also the running is a bit cheeper on this, excluding tax and insurance but i wouldnt rule it out if you got a bargin. Oh, and go to the UK for it before the new VRT rules apply! |
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Mick525i ![]() Bavarian-Board Contributor ![]() ![]() Joined: 29-November-2005 Location: Dublin Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 1823 |
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I have a 525i and have drive the 2.2 520 as well. I went for the 525 as it suits the car better. Its a heavy car and benifits greatly from the extra power. The 2.2 is ok but needs the 2.5 in my opionion. Stick with Petrol power dont believe all that DIEsel stuff about M3 performance. Yes you get a kick in the back when you boot it, but it only lasts for 2 seconds before you need another gear...... Mick |
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Bigian ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 25-May-2005 Location: Stonehaven Status: Offline Points: 2167 |
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Never mind any of them go for a 540 got the grunt pulling power and it will upset quite a few cars
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m3sport ![]() Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 27-February-2007 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 194 |
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I dont agree. The 530 diesel with remap is very powerful! Im not saying the other cars are not. Apart from the 530d, i would opt for the 525 over the 520. I drove a 530i for a few days, and boy o boy did it sound nice!!!
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flyingalexf68 ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-April-2006 Location: 53°19’59,6°14’56 Status: Offline Points: 2581 |
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I'm not getting snooty or anything but I said 530d not 520d. The power lasts from 1200rpm to 4500rpm (and geared appropriately) and with the Steptronic auto you would have to work hard to keep up on any road bar a track. It's fast in any gear, super responsive at any rpm and with all the torque low down will safely overtake anything without any bother. Not to mention 36-44 mpg. Give one a try. |
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DecMcD ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 29-September-2006 Location: Cork, Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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Thanks guys for your imput. I did buy a 530d Touring Steptronic a few months ago, a '99 car with only 46,000 miles, but sold it again after two thousand miles when I got an offer I could'nt refuse !! I'm with Mick on this as regards diesel. I loved the torque but really could'nt get used to the narrow power band. At times the hooligan comes out in me and I like to see (an hear) 6,000 rpm. I know the diesel makes the most economic sense, especially as I do about 40K miles a year, but after 35 years I really am a petrolhead. Prior to the budget I would have considered a 540, particularly as they often have all the goodies and are not hugely expensive compared to a 525 or 530. However, the way things are going I'm not sure if there would be any used market for one of these in a year or so when petrol could well be 25% up on today's price. Then there is the thought of 22mpg and I am a little intimadated by the thought of that V8 as I like to do all my own servicing and repairs where possible. A 530i does appeal, but I'm not sure if it justifies the extra 500 or so in road tax. I am also put off by this engine's reputation for having a serious drinking problem when it comes to oil ! I will probably go for a 525 as the one area I find dissapointing in the 523 is the mid range pulling power and I can't imagine that this can be anything other than poorer in the 520 despite the fact that the 2.2 has the same 170BHP. Interestingly, the VRT on the 525 is a few hundred less than the 520, though this may change when they reset the values at the start of January. Anyhow, thanks again for the comments. May I say, as a relatively new BMW owner (just over a year now), and as a longtime member of another German marque owners' club, how vastly impressed I am with the quality, performance and pleasure of ownership that my 1999 523 SE Touring has given me. Dec. |
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JohnH ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 18-June-2004 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1315 |
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I can't give you a 100% direct comparison but I did have an e46 323Ci but now I'm driving a e39 520i (2.2). Also my Dad had an e46 325Ci which I drove a fair bit too.
I think the 2.2 520 is only very marginally slower than the 323 and on an everyday basis feels pretty much quite comparable performance wise both around town and on the motorway - except it's a lot quieter and smoother. I always felt there was quite a difference between the 323 and the 325, with the 325 being notably quicker. I would think if you're looking to change the 523 for something similar then the 520 is what to go for, if you want more power then the 525 is what you want. HTH John |
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