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    Posted: 11-August-2008 at 11:03
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BMW and Mercedes want purchase co-operation

BMW and Mercedes want purchase co-operation

With the negotiations over co-operation between BMW and Mercedes-Benz gives it first results. How car engine and sport from company sources of both manufacturers experienced, the enterprises a purchase co-operation want to be received, in order to save with the purchase of components, which are not mark-differentiating, costs.



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Concern it particularly basic functions such as window lifters, entrance systems, adjustment engines, ventilation systems and Sitzgestelle.

Co-operation is to stand shortly before the signature-ripe. “To a common, independent purchase organization we can not struggle through however”, are called ourselves it from guidance circles.

As secured it is considered besides that Mercedes will only use in the future its twelve-cylinder engines with BMW together. A potenzieller third partner is the British luxury brand Aston Martin, which already stands in discussions with both Premiummarken. Also BMW and Mercedes want to deepen which is running co-operation for the development of a hybrid drive. After internal plans Mercedes will offer the successor to the S-class, which 2012 come on the market, exclusively with hybrid engines. With a world-wide yearly paragraph last year of 85.500 S-class and additionally 44,000 BMW 7ern let Daimler boss Dieter Zetsche calculate at present whether not even an self-development and a production of lithium ion batteries without assistance of suppliers sense result in, if with BMW is cooperated.

The discussions between Mercedes and BMW are running now since more than one year. Already in December 2007 finance executive committee had suggested Michael Ganal in the interview with car engine and sport that a co-operation with Mercedes was to cover also the engine range. “Fundamental can we due to the good experiences a project-related co-operation with other enterprises imagine. This is valid also for Mercedes, for example within the range of the engine development. In the case we became however on the fact respect that the different characters remain protected in the power supply units.”
Independently of absorbed co-operation with Mercedes BMW resumes also the discussions with the Fiat company, which in a co-operation between mini and Alfa Romeo could flow.

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The translation isn't great but basically, BMW & Mercedes have been in discussions regarding sharing components that are not directly visible to the user such as air con parts, window regulators, etc..
The discussions are over and the two are now going ahead with the plans using the 12 cylinder engines due to their high development cost and low production numbers. Seemingly Aston Martin may also be involved.

This is not related to the partnership between BMW & Fiat/Alfa (see BMW and Fiat 100mpg Fuel Busters (or the new Isetta!))
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Mercedes and BMW engineers want shared electric car components. A viable plan?

As electric vehicles begin to trickle onto public roads in the coming years, automakers are gaining a clearer understanding of what exactly it entails to develop a viable electric model. In short, all it takes is a lot of cold hard cash, something not easily attainable given the current economic crunch.

At a recent 2008 World Automotive Congress in Munich, Germany, top engineers from Mercedes-Benz and BMW called for a collaborative research and development plan that looks to share the expected huge costs, reduce duplicate technologies, and implement electric-vehicle componentry standards.

According to a report by Automotive News Europe, Daimler head of research Thomas Weber stated that automakers are faced with enormous costs associated with the development of electric vehicles and that the reengineering of gasoline and diesel engine to meet lower emissions standards only compounds the amounts.

At the conference, Weber called for the manufacturers to share expenditures in order to reduce the investment needed in the creation of key components such as next generation lithium-ion batteries. Primary to this plan is a standardized specification designed to be utilized by all manufacturers. Automakers will later be able to customize the components per their applications once the parts are finished and deemed producible.

BMW development chief Klaus Draeger believed in a similar industry-wide electric vehicle component/platform standard and concurred there will be a viable need in the future to cut expensive duplicate technologies.

"The race to use less crude oil is a major challenge but we need to share the burden among all parties," Draeger said. "This is not just an auto-industry issue."
 
Additionally brought up in the discussions was the topic of globalized emissions standards. According to Draeger, the current region specific regulations are "nonsense" and the need for harmonization of emissions laws in the U.S., Europe, and China is significant.

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