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    Posted: 09-January-2010 at 11:04
I don't know about anyone else but personally I think that the punishment metered out to Harriet Harman is absolutely ridiculous.
It was a minor parking collision ( more of a touch ) at less than 5mph with no damage to either vehicle, in a car park and for that she has been given 3 points and £350 fine. If that is the way the law is going to behave with this type of incident then god help us all.  A mugger at our local court who steals an old ladies handbag can get a 3 month suspended sentence and no fine, stick his thumb up to the magistrates and say cheers and walk out of court laughing. What has happened to the justice system.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rob5678 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2010 at 12:50
Steve, I agree with your sentiment but its those who are middle class who are being policed and fined . A mugger probably has nothing so there is F**K All chance of paying a fine even if they wanted to .


What is needed is a proper detterent for all and the only way to do this is imprison the likes of muggers , drug dealers  and the scum of life and then fine those who like Harriet Harman who already has two speeding offences, could have been charged with leaving the scene of an accident without giving or taking details. 

Its only then you will see what to all is a reasonable comparison

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote purplejaycars Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2010 at 17:29
Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

this is more like it!


.....and the moral of the story is....Thank goodness we don't live in Switzerland!
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I missed off that Harriet Harman was also on the phone when she had the accident - this also should have been a seperate charge if the evidence had not been LOST .  How convenient . Of course it was another example of Multi Tasking women !
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The trouble is a precedent has now been set and next time anyone  in a Tesco's car park nudges the bumper of the car behind when reversing into a parking space they potentially could receive the same punishment.
Lots of people could lose their licenses  and the government will get millions in fines to fund more wars. Yes, as such I have no sympathy for MP's in general  but the idiotic judiciary that we seem to be inflicted with will no doubt now feel its their duty to punish the ordinary man in the street to the same extent.

On a legal note as there had not been any evidence of her being on a mobile at the time presented to the court and that particular  charge being dropped, how were they able to bring a charge of driving without due care and attention without said evidence.


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I agree. This is bordering on rediculous.

Also charges of her driving while using a mobile phone were dropped.

I suspect the chare has as much to do with the political views of the officers involved as anyting else.

After all if you have a crash and no one is hurt, how hard is it to get the Police involved! They couldn't give a toss and certainly won't act as witnesses for insurance purposes.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steven.seed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-January-2010 at 18:35
Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

After all if you have a crash and no one is hurt, how hard is it to get the Police involved! They couldn't give a toss and certainly won't act as witnesses for insurance purposes.



Exactly Peter, and you may remember a few years ago I posted on here after a young guy in a Micra ran into the rear wing on the ex wife's e36. The car belonged to his mother and he turned out to be uninsured but the police did not want to know because it was in a car park.
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My dealings with the police are

1. Not interested as its on private property and

2. Not interested if there is no personnal injury


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