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    Posted: 06-March-2004 at 22:05

Hi. all you sharknose fans, can anybody help?

I think I have a temp. sense fault and would like to know which sensor does what! There are three on the stat. housing and one at the back of the cam cover. The motor behaves wonderfully except for the first start of the day when it seems the sensors haven't told the magic box it needs the equivalent of choke! Any info. on these sensors would be most gratefully recieved!

While I am on, I followed Big Vern's saga with interest, glad you found a wizard to fix it, please tell us what was done to cure the beast! Don't tell us how much though, it would probably scare me ( and 'er indoors! )

Safe motoring to all    Delboy...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-March-2004 at 21:52

- I think it goes thus, although yours may be different- there are quite a few variations depending on the engine size and year, motronic or L-jetronic injection controls.

#1. separate leads to sensor, typically brown, brown with white stripe etc. This does the temperature gauge on the dash, and does not alter the fuelling as far as I know. Readings should be a few thousand ohms to a few hundred ohms depending on temperature.

#2. blue bodied bosch injection system connector; this one adjusts the fuelling with variations in engine temperature; should read 2100-2900 ohms when cold, 270 to 400 ohms when fully hot.

#3. brown-bodied bosch system connector. This is the cold start 'thermotime' sensor, and should have a temperature stamped on the side, 35 to 40-odd deg C depending on model. This should be fed volts on the black/yellow wire  for a few seconds after the starter engages. It should have continuity below the stated temperature, and go open circuit above it.

#4 on back of cam cover... don't know about this one..are you sure this is a temperature sensor?

 

Needless to say, if #3 goes belly up your car won't start well from cold, and this is the most likely cause of your trouble.

On some models, there is a cold start injector that can stop working, even if the sensor #3 that controls it is working fine.  This will also foul up cold starting.   

I hope this helps.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-March-2004 at 23:23

   

     Many thanks for instant response Brucie. I shall check them out!

     Perhaps my descriptio of the fourth sensor was a bit vague.

     It is mounted in the head at th rear of the cam cover but looks

     similar to the two terminal jobbie up front. Thanks again,

     Delboy.

     Are there any 6 owners anywhere in the Norwich area who fancy 

     a 'noggin & natter' sometime?         

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-March-2004 at 23:32

-ah, the one at the back of the cam cover is (I believe) the oil pressure sender. This should have a single wire to it, brown with a green stripe. If it is like mine, it gives its purpose away by faintly oozing the black stuff in the general vicinity.

There is another temperature sensor built into the airflow metering unit; I don't know what happens if this goes on the blink. On l-jetronic, it is pins 8 and 9 on the airflow meter connector, and should measure 2200-2700 ohms at 20 degrees C. I suspect if it goes open circuit, the engine will maybe just run a bit (or a lot) rich- which doesn't sound like your trouble.

I expect you have plenty of multimeter-related 'fun' ahead of you...

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