M5 line-up
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Topic: M5 line-up
Posted By: Toxic
Subject: M5 line-up
Date Posted: 20-September-2004 at 08:29
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pics available from the link below:
http://www.bmw-forums.com/forum/topic22013.html - http://www.bmw-forums.com/forum/topic22013.html ------------- Tom E39 1997 523i Oxford Green (Sold) ___________________________ |
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Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 20-September-2004 at 08:41
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E34 all the way, but then I could be accused of being biased.... E12 The early M 535i - you should have included that too as it was really the first pass at an icon. E28 is a lot of fun and is probably the more raw driving experience, wouldn't like to run one as a daily driver - bit too harsh. E39? I've not driven one but possibly too much electrickery on board. Would love to have a go.... E60, it's the new M5, it's gotta be good! I wouldn't mind one of each in the fantasy garage.... ------------- The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. |
Posted By: Úbermensch
Date Posted: 20-September-2004 at 12:02
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Not convinced by the newer car, it lacks the classy understated appeal
of the E39, abit too squinty-eyed cheap Jap-crap boy-racing rice rocket
impression., take away the badge and those (rather tasty) alloys and
what are you left with ? some tacky M3 fins and a quadruplet of
exhausts resembling that goofy cartoon character..? Nope, it simply won't do and i'll be looking towards AMG next time round,. Its a step backwards for BMW., not everyone (whom such a fast executive car could potentially appeal to) are of the 'balls-out 9000rpm civic type-R' disposition., and this new V10 lacks lower end torque (way down on the V8 until it hits around 5500rpm) meaning E39-like 2nd gear 2000rpm neck-snapping darts thru traffic cutting up taxi drivers & peasantry dissipation along backroads in 5th gear at little over tickover is now no longer possible, without dropping a few cogs & having the thing scream its fcuking head off like a kawazuki 1100 racer or something.. This new M5 is more of an overweight M3 instead, with compulsory close-ratio SMG (to facilitate its rev-happy nature?) and a whole host of electronic bollixology and gimmickry like 'power' button, 13 different modes of gearchanges, onscreen rev counter yadda yadda,. when all they had to do was add a supercharger to the E39 drivetrain (b10 bi-turbo?), some wider tyres & a brembo big brake kit.. it's little wonder that since it introduction, e60 sales figures have been down around 50% on the previous generation 5-series then.. ------------- |
Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 20-September-2004 at 19:50
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Easy dude......AMG, i dont think so, plenty more ///M cars to choose from but i'll merk an exception for Mclaren SLR...... ------------- http://www.BMW-driver.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=21 - http://www.BMW-driver.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=21 |
Úbermensch wrote:
Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 21-September-2004 at 03:38
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I concur with all you're saying, úber.... but I think you may find the AMG compromised in other areas such as the fact it has inadequate mechanical grip for the poke it has (not aided by the fact it has an open diff, unforgivable for a car of this kind in my opinion) and as a consequence is critically dependant on electronics to maintain some semblance of forward progress. Not the sign of a well developed chassis and something symptomatic of all nutter-speed Mercs. I'd say a 545i has torque figures approaching those of the new M5 in the low-to-mid range, so maybe an Alpina version of that as a fallback option?
------------- Mazda 6 MPS S1 Elise 135 Sport Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254"> 
Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i |
Posted By: Úbermensch
Date Posted: 30-September-2004 at 16:01
with sales figures already dwindling for the new E60 across the world, comes this ;
 http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=210953 - http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=2109 53 I knew there was almost 200kg in weight savings over the outgoing E39 model (which stands at roughly 1.7 tonnes), but didn't think they'd skimp on structural rigidity or safety.. another reason why the V8 M5 is superior and will become somewhat of an icon (ala 993 porsche).. Spread the word its made from tinfoil.. wuhahahaha 
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Posted By: AHEALY
Date Posted: 06-October-2004 at 09:28
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Gradisco il e39 il la cosa migliore (take that T.J.)
------------- Ado '97 523i & 95 M3 97 Subaru Impreza WRX Sport Wagon (sold) |
Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 06-October-2004 at 11:31
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Surely you mean it's è i testicoli dei cani
------------- The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. |
Posted By: AHEALY
Date Posted: 06-October-2004 at 11:55
Yes, it's the dogs  ------------- Ado '97 523i & 95 M3 97 Subaru Impreza WRX Sport Wagon (sold) |
Posted By: topazman
Date Posted: 06-October-2004 at 12:03
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The e39 is my favourite nice shape and nicer engine Topazman ------------- Now 2004 M3 Coupe Silver Grey with all the bits |
vroom vroom, but the new car could change my mind when I get a spin in one next year Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 06-October-2004 at 12:05
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what do you mean nicer engine? Same engines as in 3 series. ------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
Posted By: topazman
Date Posted: 06-October-2004 at 12:14
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It sounds much nicer when it starts up and drives like a storm and the engine is refined even better than the others, but sorry for forgetting about you Mr. M5 Bannon Topazman ------------- Now 2004 M3 Coupe Silver Grey with all the bits |
Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 06-October-2004 at 13:07
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E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 E34 ------------- The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. |
Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 06-October-2004 at 13:20
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Okay so it looked better when it was on my screen...... ------------- The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. |
Posted By: kenny
Date Posted: 06-October-2004 at 17:17
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E60 growing on me but the E39 is the classic BMW for me. ------------- Alive.........but for how long? 1999 V E46 318se Black with grey leather |
Posted By: topazman
Date Posted: 07-October-2004 at 03:37
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What was I thinking when I replied to your comment M5 Bannon the E39 has the V8 engine a bit more refined than the 6 cylinder engine thats in the rest of the range Topazman ------------- Now 2004 M3 Coupe Silver Grey with all the bits |
Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 07-October-2004 at 03:39
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i see! ------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
Posted By: Richie
Date Posted: 07-October-2004 at 04:39
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The new M5 appears to be out in the USA
http://forum.bmwcarmagazine.com/topic2.asp?TOPIC_ID=23389 - M5 |
Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 07-October-2004 at 04:57
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its a test car - look at the diagnostic stuff inside it. ------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
Posted By: johnny318is
Date Posted: 07-October-2004 at 05:07
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I've owned an E28 and an E34 and out of the two the E28 was the better by a long way. The E34 is just too soft for me. ------------- John Plymouth UK 96 E34 540i Individual 98 E39 523i SE 01 Renaultsport Clio 172 |
Posted By: Richie
Date Posted: 07-October-2004 at 05:11
Well spotted Killian.Looks the dogs though doesn't it 
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Posted By: topazman
Date Posted: 07-October-2004 at 08:03
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The exhaust pipes looks a bit small for such a powerful car I hope they put a decent exhaust system on the European spec cars. Topazman ------------- Now 2004 M3 Coupe Silver Grey with all the bits |
Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 07-October-2004 at 09:12
------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 07-October-2004 at 09:33
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e28 for me. A bit like the e30 M3, things might have gotten a bit more sophisticated with the later models, but the earlier models actually demanded a bit more from the driver, and rewarded them for it. That's the sort of reason why I got the e30, to complement the e39. ------------- Now: BMW 523i SE '00, 318i SE - e91 '07, 325i Coupe '93. Prev: e46 328i SE Touring, 330Ci, 318Ci. e39 523i SE. e36 325i Coupe *2, 323i SE, 316iSE. e30 325iSE 2dr, 320i Conv, 320i 2dr, 316i. |