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Topic: Viper 2 from Chipped UK!
Posted By: W@zzA
Subject: Viper 2 from Chipped UK!
Date Posted: 16-October-2004 at 16:16

Impressive results with the Viper 2 fast road chip in my E34 525 Sport M50 24v single Vanos (ECU No 0 261 200 413).  All round improvements: Much easier to drive round town (London rush hour etc), better top end, raised rev limit and with no apparant loss in fuel consumption (I'm still on my first tank so it's to early to say). Also if you have a later E34 with security coding they'll need your old chip or ECU to replicate the code on the new one because it wont start without it, so be prepared to be without your car for a while and send it via special delivery with insurance for a grand cos if it gets lost in the post your in difficulty and will need an expensive trip to BMW.

Warren.

Warren !



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1995 E34 525 Sport in Daytona Violet



Replies:
Posted By: W@zzA
Date Posted: 02-November-2004 at 17:19

Had a run up to Yorkshire this weekend and had my best MPG figures on the way back at just under 29 to the gallon! This was at three figure speeds with one traffic jam on the M1 and heavy traffic on the M42, on the other hand my normal journeys have returned a slightly heavier consumption figure than before but this is probably because I've been taking advantage of whats available with the Viper 2 fitted!

Warren



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1995 E34 525 Sport in Daytona Violet


Posted By: Sarnie
Date Posted: 05-November-2004 at 17:16

Hi Warren I have a 1995 525 Touring with the same ECU number & am considering this mod.

Is the midrange torque noticably better as I use mine for trailering ?

Do you now have to use Super Unleaded all the time ? 

Will it pass MOT emissions with this chip or do you have to change back to standard ?

Is the tickover still the same ?

Thanks for any info......Simon



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1995 525i Touring
Ford Capri 3.0 S
Ford Capri 3.0 Ghia


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 06-November-2004 at 05:09

The chip will not work on the 1995, you need the ews enabled version and i do have these in stock also.

It will pass all emmisions and run on standard unleaded 95 ron fuel.

Tickover is 775rpm but i can alter this to suit yourself at no extra cost.



Posted By: mmm-five
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 05:52
Do you do anything for the e34 3.8 M5 - it's starting to feel slow!

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Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 06:06

yes.

i would need the ecu number though as there are 3 types and each gives different power increases.



Posted By: e34m5
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 08:35
Originally posted by mmm-five mmm-five wrote:

Do you do anything for the e34 3.8 M5 - it's starting to feel slow!


Can you borrow someones 518 for a while then you will apreciate how quick your car really is


Miles

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1991 525i Sport Manual

http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3552&st=0">


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 09:46
lol


Posted By: harvard468
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 12:33

Probably the wrong forum, but following the thread, has anyone experience of chipping an E39/S62 M5?  And why are the chips twice as much as for other cars!!??

Regards

STEPHEN B



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Stephen B
1990 Z1
1994 E34 540i Touring
1999 E38 740i (Had to go)
2001 E39 M5


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 13:28
what year ?


Posted By: harvard468
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 13:52

March 2001

STEPHEN B



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Stephen B
1990 Z1
1994 E34 540i Touring
1999 E38 740i (Had to go)
2001 E39 M5


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 13:59

because your car is map only and this costs more.

i charge 75 for chipping and 125 for mapping

 



Posted By: Sarnie
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 14:46

Hi Jayson 

As mine has the EWS what does it involve, do you need the whole ECU ? or can it be done while I wait if I bring car to you ?

When the code is copied to the new chip is the original rendered useless ?

How much ?

Thanks Simon



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1995 525i Touring
Ford Capri 3.0 S
Ford Capri 3.0 Ghia


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 14:58

hi there,

with the later ews cars like yours you need a new chip with the ews code taken off your original chip and written to the new chip with the performance chip software.

this can be done in 1 hour and will give excelent results (seen 17hp+ many many times) and costs £125 as this is a personal map for each car alone and not off the shelf.

 

 



Posted By: Sarnie
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 15:13
Thanks for that, will be in touch at a later date when I can get up your way.

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1995 525i Touring
Ford Capri 3.0 S
Ford Capri 3.0 Ghia


Posted By: harvard468
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 17:04
Originally posted by chippeduk chippeduk wrote:

because your car is map only and this costs more.

i charge 75 for chipping and 125 for mapping

 

Sorry to be really thick- I don't know the difference between chipping and mapping!

Non-techie STEPHEN B!



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Stephen B
1990 Z1
1994 E34 540i Touring
1999 E38 740i (Had to go)
2001 E39 M5


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 08-November-2004 at 17:08

chip is when you replace the chip in the ecu.

mapping is when you connect the laptop to the car and flash or programme via a port in the loom.



Posted By: mmm-five
Date Posted: 09-November-2004 at 12:42
Originally posted by chippeduk chippeduk wrote:

yes.

i would need the ecu number though as there are 3 types and each gives different power increases.

 

Can't I just have the one that gives me most power

I'll have a look this weekend!



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Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 09-November-2004 at 12:48

yes, i have a few levels of power for each ecu.

economy

fast road

track



Posted By: harvard468
Date Posted: 09-November-2004 at 17:16
Originally posted by chippeduk chippeduk wrote:

chip is when you replace the chip in the ecu.

mapping is when you connect the laptop to the car and flash or programme via a port in the loom.

Right - so rather than send me a chip in the post, you have to have the car for a day?

What levels of power/torque increase then are available for my 2001 E39 M5?

Regards

 

STEPHEN B



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Stephen B
1990 Z1
1994 E34 540i Touring
1999 E38 740i (Had to go)
2001 E39 M5


Posted By: PaulS
Date Posted: 10-November-2004 at 13:12

Yo Chipped UK!!

I am looking provisionally to come up on 11th Dec for chip & mapping on my E28 528i. Is that OK and how much will it set me back.

Paul Sharp E28 528i (86)

http://sharpy.smugmug.com/gallery/278675/1/11051228">Sharpy > The Silver Beast (Update) photo http://sharpy.smugmug.com/gallery/278675/1/11051230">Sharpy > The Silver Beast (Update) photo



Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 10-November-2004 at 13:22
it is between £75 and £125 depending on the ecu.


Posted By: PaulS
Date Posted: 10-November-2004 at 13:31

I did send you my ECU number a couple of weeks ago

Paul E28 528i (86)

http://sharpy.smugmug.com/gallery/278675/1/11051228">Sharpy > The Silver Beast (Update) photo http://sharpy.smugmug.com/gallery/278675/1/11051230">Sharpy > The Silver Beast (Update) photo



Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 10-November-2004 at 13:37
this is a one-off map so i would need you here for around 1 hour too 1.5 hour and will cost £120.0


Posted By: PaulS
Date Posted: 10-November-2004 at 13:41

Ok, will let you know if change of plan

Paul E28 528i (86)

http://sharpy.smugmug.com/gallery/278675/1/11051228">Sharpy > The Silver Beast (Update) photo http://sharpy.smugmug.com/gallery/278675/1/11051230">Sharpy > The Silver Beast (Update) photo



Posted By: thebutler
Date Posted: 10-November-2004 at 16:06

Fitted by Viper2 chip this evening, and I have to say it's made a huge difference. The pull a lot more strongly through the midrange (1700 - 4000, and is also more responsive. I haven't had chance to put it through it's paces properly yet (traffic was pretty crappy tonight) but will try tomorrow  

 

 



Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 10-November-2004 at 16:16

you will also get better fuel economy too.

of course you wont to start with as you hit the gas harder :)



Posted By: kenny 523se
Date Posted: 12-November-2004 at 10:57
hi i have a 1999 523 se do you do a chip for this model and how much and where about are you


Posted By: Savo
Date Posted: 12-November-2004 at 13:30

Hi, I have just purchased the Viper 2 chip seems a bit of a bargain.  Can't wait to get it, also my new Bilstein Kit came today, It's getting fitted next Wed.  Happy days!

Andrew



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1992 525I Sport, Bilstein Sport Suspension. Viper 2 Chip


Posted By: e34m5
Date Posted: 12-November-2004 at 14:13
Originally posted by Savo Savo wrote:

Hi, I have just purchased the Viper 2 chip seems a bit of a bargain.  Can't wait to get it, also my new Bilstein Kit came today, It's getting fitted next Wed.  Happy days!


Andrew



Where did you get the Bilstein kit from ?

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1991 525i Sport Manual

http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3552&st=0">


Posted By: Savo
Date Posted: 12-November-2004 at 14:29

Same place as you!  Thanks for the advice, Motorsportworld £424.  It all came in a lovely big box and saved me £70 quid or so off the price of Euro Car Parts including delivery to N.I.  I'm getting a few bushes, spring pads and the droplinks replaced at the same time.  Can't wait. 

Andrew



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1992 525I Sport, Bilstein Sport Suspension. Viper 2 Chip


Posted By: e34m5
Date Posted: 12-November-2004 at 14:52
Originally posted by Savo Savo wrote:

Same place as you!  Thanks for the advice, Motorsportworld £424.  It all came in a lovely big box and saved me £70 quid or so off the price of Euro Car Parts including delivery to N.I.  I'm getting a few bushes, spring pads and the droplinks replaced at the same time.  Can't wait. 


Andrew



It will totally transform the handling of your car

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1991 525i Sport Manual

http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3552&st=0">


Posted By: chasseur
Date Posted: 15-November-2004 at 14:59
ChippedUK : any chips for the 4.0 V8


Posted By: ste_nelson
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 07:16

Hello ChippedUk. I'm potentially interested in one of your fine-sounding chips.

I have a small query though. What kind of warranty do you offer on your work?

By that I mean if you fit a chip to my car and the engine later fails due to a problem with running too lean and burning holes in pistons, or running too rich and causing bore wash and piston ring failure do you guarantee to replace my engine?

I understand all of your chips must be mapped on the relevant vehicles on a rolling road under numerous conditions, temperatures, loads etc and have undergone countless R&D tests and revisions but I just want to cover my back. After all I'd want to make sure you were completely covered for such an eventuality. As I'm sure you're aware of the cost from the BMW dealer of replacement M-Power engines.

After all, there are some unscrupulous people out there who are earning money out of unsuspecting people with little more than a laptop, a rough understanding of Eprom programming and a chip burner.

Kind regards.



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Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 07:50

I like the post ste.

I guarantee my chips are perfect but as your well aware, people can have there cars running rich or lean due to other factors.

The proof on the rolling road events show the chips work perfectly but yes, i do guarantee my goods.

If you find ANY company on the planet who offer such a warrenty i will match it.

By this i mean, they have to have been offering such a warrenty for the past 6 months and not an offer starting today or tommorow.

I have been in the motorsport trade for years and never come accross this or anything like it.

Too many factors come into play.

What i will do though is offer you a guarantee that you buy a chip or have a car mapped and then if in the next 4 weeks you go to a rolling road centre or tuning centre and they can say the chip or map i supplied is making the car overfuel or underfuel directly then i will give a full refund and also refund the cost of the rolling road session and all expenses associated with it.

 

Now thats an offer no one will give you.



Posted By: ste_nelson
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 08:03

Many thanks - that's the kind of endorsement I'm sure will put many people's minds at rest.



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Posted By: paul325i
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 08:14
Jayson are your chips detectable at service by the dealer?

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Posted By: harvard468
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 09:23

Presumably the remapped ecu's rather than the replaced chips are more obvious to a dealer?

STEPHEN B



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Stephen B
1990 Z1
1994 E34 540i Touring
1999 E38 740i (Had to go)
2001 E39 M5


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 09:26

You wont see a chipped ecu at service or a mapped one as the vin number/ews number and key number are not altered or removed or redirected.

Only a section of the code is changed which is not looked for at service.



Posted By: BMWE34sport
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 10:44

Ok this is all starting to sound pretty interesting to me too ...wouldn't mind getting some better fuel economy out of my 525 sport as well as a bit more punch ...

I have read the above posts and im pretty sure i understand it all but can someone just clarify what risks im running if i decide to get a chip installed ??

Also chippeduk i know you would need my ECU number but can you give me an approximate figure of how much a chip would be for my 1991 525i sport ?? and what exact benefits I would get .

Its xmas bonus time soon so i might be time to spend some money on my baby



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1991 525 Sport


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 11:20

Your looking at around 14hp real term gains.

If you call me on 07815-501867 i can discuss options.

 

cheers

 



Posted By: harvard468
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 17:32

Jay,

Same question from me - E39 M5 2001.  What power and (as importantly) torque improvements should I expect.

Is the torque curve extended/flattened?

Also what would be the cost - I would presumably have to come to Essex for the remap - I live in Salisbury.  Please pm me if you prefer.

I had a superchip fitted to my Z1 - did I waste my money???

Regards

STEPHEN B



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Stephen B
1990 Z1
1994 E34 540i Touring
1999 E38 740i (Had to go)
2001 E39 M5


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 17:42

Its hard for me to knock another companies goods as it could be a case of mine is better than theres to gain sales in some peoples eyes but if you look at ANY of the rolling road days held by the e36coupe you will see who always comes top out of viper2 and superchips.

As for your car, your looking at 13hp and 14lbft.

This is not going to be mega noticable in an already awesome car but it will be noticable.

You will get 2mpg better fuel consumption.

I am in birmingham and will need the car for an hour to do the work and the cost would be £125.



Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 18:10
OK, I'll bite too, I'm intrigued -- I have an E38 750, an E24 635 (series 1), a Z1 and an E21 323i -- which of those are chippable/mappable.

I sense a serious wallet hoovering coming on...

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Ciao,
Spokey



Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 18:14
Jayson, are you busy this weekend?
tried to ring you on Sunday from wolvo, but you must have been tied up (phone off).

Didnt get to wolvo till afternoon anyway dur to traffic and hangover... lol

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V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate
J Reg Saab 900i 16v
'63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe
R reg Honda PC50 moped..

No BMW as yet...


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 18:19

Rhys, i am working at home this weekend so yes, i can map/chip a car during this time.

 

To give a 100% correct answer i need your ecu numbers but what year is the 750i ?

 

 



Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 18:21
1996 750, I think, might be 1997...
1989 Z1
1982 323
1981 635

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Ciao,
Spokey



Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 18:30
Thanks Jayson, will ring you on Friday, will have to arrange to meet somewhere as I dont know brum.

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V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate
J Reg Saab 900i 16v
'63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe
R reg Honda PC50 moped..

No BMW as yet...


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 18:34
spokey, i`ll deffo need the ecu numbers mate


Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 16-November-2004 at 18:36
Not tonight, that's for sure! :)

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Ciao,
Spokey



Posted By: fireblake
Date Posted: 17-November-2004 at 13:15

Hiya Jay,

I'm new on this site and am interested in possibly chipping my '99 E39 523 Touring.As i've already discovered elsewhere this engine is de-tuned. Can i get an increase in MPG, power and or Torque, if so what kind of figures and how much? Sorry if i'm going over old news but i really would love to pep the old girl up a bit.

All the best mate.   Mickeyboy 



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E39,523sei,Touring,Glacier Green


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 17-November-2004 at 15:19

You need to map that car, i can do it for £125 fitted and am in birmingham.

where are you located ?

 



Posted By: fireblake
Date Posted: 17-November-2004 at 15:38

Near Portsmouth,  

Have you any idea what gains there would be, and if i had better economy would i lose power over the standard output?

Cheers Mickeyboy



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E39,523sei,Touring,Glacier Green


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 17-November-2004 at 15:59

around 11hp and 14lbft of torque.

you would get around 3mpg better fuel consumption.

 

 



Posted By: Savo
Date Posted: 17-November-2004 at 17:48

Chip came today!  Thinking about installing it tomorrow, I'm a bit worried about breaking something in the process though.  Also,  got my Bilstein kit fitted today,  MEGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Cost another £250 to get it put in including bushes etc.  I can't wait to go to work in the morning just so I get another drive, the difference is brilliant



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1992 525I Sport, Bilstein Sport Suspension. Viper 2 Chip


Posted By: e34m5
Date Posted: 17-November-2004 at 18:02
Originally posted by Savo Savo wrote:

Chip came today!  Thinking about installing it tomorrow, I'm a bit worried about breaking something in the process though.  Also,  got my Bilstein kit fitted today,  MEGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Cost another £250 to get it put in including bushes etc.  I can't wait to go to work in the morning just so I get another drive, the difference is brilliant



I told you the Bilstein kit is good , do you have instructions to follow for the Chip installation ? The only problem i had was that you have to get the top circuit board at about a 45 degree angle to the lower one before it will unlatch, at this point the connecting wires are really strectched and i was worried that i was going to break them And don't worry about breaking the tabs of the ECU case.....


Miles

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1991 525i Sport Manual

http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3552&st=0">


Posted By: Savo
Date Posted: 18-November-2004 at 02:45

I have read some info from e34.net.  Are these the instructions you are talking about??

Andrew

 

P.S The car sits lower now as I had hoped, I think it looks much better, even a little smaller than it did.  It corners great.



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1992 525I Sport, Bilstein Sport Suspension. Viper 2 Chip


Posted By: PaulS
Date Posted: 18-November-2004 at 05:01

Chipped UK,

Big expense on car - 2 tyres and sort out exhaust dut to rubber breaking during caning phase and dragging on the ground  The only good bit is that exhaust still whole but some repairs are needed! I am looking to come up to have it chipped beginning of January!

Paul - E28 528i (86)



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95 E34 530i V8 Auto Maldives Blue


Posted By: e34m5
Date Posted: 18-November-2004 at 05:20
Originally posted by Savo Savo wrote:

I have read some info from e34.net.  Are these the instructions you are talking about??


Andrew


 


P.S The car sits lower now as I had hoped, I think it looks much better, even a little smaller than it did.  It corners great.



The instructions you mention are a bit over simplified and miss out of few steps...But i am sure you'll be able to work out what you need to do


Miles

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1991 525i Sport Manual

http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3552&st=0">


Posted By: Tony50
Date Posted: 23-November-2004 at 17:47

I have a '94 540 auto can it be re mapped to improve consumption. Goes like stink so not to bothered about performance but latest contract means many miles and ££££££'s on fuel. I really dont want to have to sell.

Also have '96 320 manual what improvements overall can be achieved.

Cheers



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'94 black320iSE(sold)
'93 540iAuto (for sale)
'96 523i SE
Lofty


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 23-November-2004 at 17:52
i can get 2 or 3 mpg better from the 540 and can transform the lethargic 320i.


Posted By: Tony50
Date Posted: 23-November-2004 at 18:15

Good news on the 540, at 5-600 miles per week thats many 

what info do you need, coming to you would be no probs, when would be convenient. Oh yeh, how much.

T



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'94 black320iSE(sold)
'93 540iAuto (for sale)
'96 523i SE
Lofty


Posted By: chippeduk
Date Posted: 23-November-2004 at 19:51

It depends on the ecu you have,

Chip on it would be £75 fitted.

Mapping would be £125 fitted.




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