he wrote a very funny book about his doomed-to-failure as a f1 racing driver (thats how he got that renault f1 car round in 59s this evening, plenty of practice!)

it would make a very good christmas present, one of the few books that ive read from cover to cover in one sitting

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1844250180/qid=1103497913/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-2723881-0958252 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1844250180/qid=1103 497913/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-2723881-0958252

im inclined to believe that there was no change of old stig to "fresh stig"

although rumour has it that there are three stigs filling in for each other when the others are otherwise engaged

blame a popular tabloid for publishing p.c's name after the jaguar d-type incident

course it did wonders for his book sales (hey, i bought one) lol

"stig of the dump" makes me think of top gear and a "little britain" sketch

guess im just not that old

i remember mog and meg, funnybones, will 'o' the wisp and the adventure game

does that count?

Rhys wrote: Don't you just love the way that JC just beat em.. again..

Yes, very convenient, especially as it helps make his point about how cars are better than public transport. While I agree with this point, when you have to use a 170k Ferrari and drive as fast as he was it's a bit daft.

There supposed to be reviewing the new 1 series next week so we'll have to see how if fairs, especially considering JC's recent comments in the Times.  

Oh and I remember stig of the dump.

Peter Fenwick wrote: Rhys wrote: Don't you just love the way that JC just beat em.. again.. Yes, very convenient, especially as it helps make his point about how cars are better than public transport. While I agree with this point, when you have to use a 170k Ferrari and drive as fast as he was it's a bit daft. There supposed to be reviewing the new 1 series next week so we'll have to see how if fairs, especially considering JC's recent comments in the Times.   Oh and I remember stig of the dump.

what did he say about the 1?

Apparently he gave it 1 out of 5. It has been discussed in this topic:

http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=12519&PN=1 - http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=12519&a mp;PN=1

Evo Dude,

Top gear is on again tonight BBC2 at 11.20pm. Perhaps JC has finally got some taste!! I think the new M6 looks awesome!!

Paul

Horsetan wrote: Peter Fenwick wrote: Rhys wrote: Don't you just love the way that JC just beat em.. again.. Yes, very convenient, especially as it helps make his point about how cars are better than public transport. While I agree with this point, when you have to use a 170k Ferrari and drive as fast as he was it's a bit daft... If it hadn't been for the WCUK bus and train service at the start, JC would have been beaten hands down. There is nothing more integrated than Swiss public transport. It just.....works!

It's not just the Swiss, either. My parents have been to several european countries and they have been very impressed with the public transport. It's just a shame that ours is such a joke.

Peter Fenwick wrote: Horsetan wrote: Peter Fenwick wrote: Rhys wrote: Don't you just love the way that JC just beat em.. again.. Yes, very convenient, especially as it helps make his point about how cars are better than public transport. While I agree with this point, when you have to use a 170k Ferrari and drive as fast as he was it's a bit daft... If it hadn't been for the WCUK bus and train service at the start, JC would have been beaten hands down. There is nothing more integrated than Swiss public transport. It just.....works! It's not just the Swiss, either. My parents have been to several european countries and they have been very impressed with the public transport. It's just a shame that ours is such a joke.

Tis true, its all down to infrastructure tho, and ours mustnt have been planned all that well, many moons ago.

Hitatchi bullet train, perfect example, look how many countries use it, and how low the accident rate / high the efficiency is compared to our rubbish stop n start jobbies.

Think we should all move out, nuke the place and start over. Not quite "cost effective" enough tho eh?

and before you say it, yes HT - This is more of me speaking crap (as usual)

"efficiency"

Just noticed a word that the 'i' before 'e' except after 'C' rule doesnt apply too ! ... Hooray!

e28silver528i wrote: Evo Dude, Top gear is on again tonight BBC2 at 11.20pm

Excellent, thanks.

Praktisk wrote: "efficiency" Just noticed a word that the 'i' before 'e' except after 'C' rule doesnt apply too ! ... Hooray!

The "rule" that says, " 'i' before 'e' except after 'c' " is one of the English languages biggest misquotes.  The full quote should read, "When the sound rhymes with 'b', it's 'i' before 'e' except after 'c'."  Operate this rule and it works pretty well, and accounts for words like "efficient", "lenient", "convenient", "twistier" etc. etc.

Horsetan wrote: Notwork Rail - when it absolutely, positively, DOESN'T have to be there on time. Or at all.

Because we are too busy posting on bmw forums ...

Got a funny internal email a few months back, from the chief environment officer saying the met office had released some figures that indicated over 3/4 of the leaves had already fallen off the trees, and it was only a few weeks into autumn.

I think his underlying point was, "were going to have to think of a new excuse now boys"

m3Cecotto wrote: " 'i' before 'e' except after 'c' " is one of the English languages biggest misquotes.  The full quote should read, "When the sound rhymes with 'b', it's 'i' before 'e' except after 'c'."  Operate this rule and it works pretty well, and accounts for words like "efficient", "lenient", "convenient", "twistier" etc. etc.

Nice one M3Cecotto

Its come to something when were taking English lessons from a Scotsman 

We just learned that they spent £500,000 on the Gallup organisations Q12 - Employee Engagement Survey. (very american)

This is where we all get a letter with a unique pin number, we then have to ring a call centre and tell them how strongly we agree/disagree to 12 statements/questions. Totally confidential I must add.

First statement is "I enjoy working for Network Rail as a company" or something to that effect .... press 5 if you strongly agree .... 1 if you disagree, etc.

Third statement; "I have a best friend at work"  ... eh??????

Peter Fenwick wrote: [QUOTE=Horsetan] [QUOTE=Peter Fenwick] It's not just the Swiss, either. My parents have been to several european countries and they have been very impressed with the public transport. It's just a shame that ours is such a joke.

maybe it's because we don't pay enough tax??

please not that was a joke.

silverbeastie wrote: Peter Fenwick wrote: [QUOTE=Horsetan] [QUOTE=Peter Fenwick] It's not just the Swiss, either. My parents have been to several european countries and they have been very impressed with the public transport. It's just a shame that ours is such a joke.   maybe it's because we don't pay enough tax?? please not that was a joke.

True, everyone else should pay more tax, except me who should be exempt!

I see JCs appreciation of BMWs didnt last long! Rather slated the 1 series I believe!! But then again they're bound to sell well seeing as he dosen't like it!

Paul

aye, you're right, its been mentioned on the programme (they tested the M cars on the Isle of Man)

ftp://g5pry.serveftp.com/Top Gear - 11th March 2003.avi - ftp://g5pry.serveftp.com/Top Gear - 11th March 2003.avi

(176mb, right-click, save as...)

and on the times website in his weekly column

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/ - http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/

Horsetan wrote: What the hell. It was nice to see the original Audi Quattro out for a run....

That was the highlight of the show for me!

Would have been more interesting if the A2 quattro was fitted with tarmac setup, and the stig got to drive that too, it was the owner John Hanlon who drove it, but you can't have a 20 year old car beating an evo!

I believe he sold it for about £4000 just before its value rose to about £10-12K

Paul

Just seen a copy of autocar from 14 dec issue talking about the new M6, and saw an article about large possibility of an M1 with 3.0 ltr lump from new 630i developing 310 bhp, which I would think just may shut JC up for a bit anyway! Also liked the sound of an M7 but didn't like the sound of a Z4M with a detuned 4.0l V8 from the M3 as they never detuned the engine from the Z3M, taken from the E36 M3 (or at least I don't think they did anyway)

Paul

e28silver528i wrote:  as they never detuned the engine from the Z3M, taken from the E36 M3 (or at least I don't think they did anyway)

I thought they did, at least a little bit anyway. I know when the E46 M3 came out the Z3M got the engine but detuned to 325bhp.

Sorry for the come down, but still pretty damn quick if you ask me - 0-60 5.8sec approx, 155 mph and 310bhp! Still must be good fun!

Paul

Peter,

Just had a look through performance BMW mag and the Z3M had the same engine as the E36 M3 evo 3.2 straight six but developing 325bhp compared to 321bhp for the evo - so no it wasn't detuned

Paul