Rugby 735i back on Fleabay
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Printed Date: 15-May-2024 at 17:51
Topic: Rugby 735i back on Fleabay
Posted By: Philip
Subject: Rugby 735i back on Fleabay
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 08:37
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9837&item=4526920321&rd=1 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category =9837&item=4526920321&rd=1 This car has been on Fleabay before.
------------- Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile |
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Posted By: sbuckingham
Date Posted: 11-February-2005 at 09:07
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The garages behind the car would all have to be full of spares to make his Buy It Now worthwhile. ------------- Regards Simon 1985 728i SE E23 2004 Audi S4 4.2 Quattro Cabriolet 
E23 Stabilise your depreciation. |
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 11-February-2005 at 09:11
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I see you've made it onto the board Simon You forgot to put the whippets and flat cap in your signature list
------------- Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile |
Posted By: sbuckingham
Date Posted: 11-February-2005 at 09:36
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Yeah, I found my way here. I thought there was an E23 forum for the BMW drivers with an eye for the finer things in life. As to the dog reference:- My dad - greyhounds (9 of at the moment I believe). Me - huskies (3 of) [However, adult dog and bitch getting jiggy so puppies to be expected]. Flat caps, a man would be naked without one. It's worth keeping a spare in a pocket as an extra precaution. You forgot about the lard too. A multipurpose product - ideal as a mid morning snack when kept in that bottom desk drawer (it also collects all the loose staples and paperclips); can be used to enhance the tan when nipping to the fish shop on those all too infrequent hot summer days, makes the best chips too; perfect for E23 door hinges. Makes for lively debate when its virtues are extolled to any dietician. A couple of bites off a block before a session on the beer stops that vindaloo from constipating you too. ------------- Regards Simon 1985 728i SE E23 2004 Audi S4 4.2 Quattro Cabriolet
E23 Stabilise your depreciation. |
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 11-February-2005 at 09:41
Vindaloo is the world's favourite laxative, so unlikely to cause constipation ------------- Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile |
Posted By: sbuckingham
Date Posted: 11-February-2005 at 09:47
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Ahh! So the lard isn't necessary for that then. It must be an old wife's tale. ------------- Regards Simon 1985 728i SE E23 2004 Audi S4 4.2 Quattro Cabriolet
E23 Stabilise your depreciation. |
Posted By: eta.
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 04:14
| Hope you are bidding Phil! |
Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 08:10
It is a bit of a lardmobile.....  -------------   
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Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 08:34
| car is fit for landfill as hiaboy would say, or would make a good spares car.wheels look naff, colour is naff,never bid for a e23 more than £100 as thats all they are worth. e23 cars are as ag says only for smoking around on a sunday morning or looking at bmw shows. if you happen to have a good one thats totaly imaculate its worth keeping. |
Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 09:55
| welcome simon. |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 09:57
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I like it, poor car. Not that bad. no wunder there ant meny left. tut tut sham on you all
------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 10:47
| not many left, if i was to have a pound for every e23 thats still hanging around i would be a wealthy man.its the crud thats still around that keep the prices low on these cars witin 5 to 7 years our cars will be worth calling true classics... |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 12:23
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Well the crud as you put it may ass well be discribing my e23. has rust and lots of it. arch eye brows hide rust on arches gearbox don't werk can't start it without removing the fuse OBC don't work boot leaks and the list gos on. too meny people regard these cars as crud mine my as well be too, but I can see past all this and use the car evey day doing 200 miles a week to and from work and I I love it to bits.  ------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 12:56
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The only E23 worth having is a mint, low mileage car
with full history on which everything works. It can be a manual 728i, it doesn't really matter. But a high mileage example with rusty bits is just a piece of rubbish which will continually leak oil and water (both out and in) and break down. The L&C 728i which had only done 30 (thirty) miles from new sold for £3000. On that basis, the one on ebay is worth 45 pence, not that I would pay anything like that for scrap. This country is brimming with good cars for not much money, so why would anyone want to rescue garbage like this? Sorry, but a doggy E23 is about as classic as my 15 year old fridge and not quite as useful. These cars will NEVER, EVER be valuable. |
Posted By: sbuckingham
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 13:15
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bmw 1066 has got it just right. The E23's are all knocking on a bit now and whilst there are still some rubbish ones around (and I've got one of them) there are some that have been looked after (I've got one of them as well). The tatty ones will all be crushed, melted down and turned into barbeques in the next few years as rob says. Whether their values will ever be higher I doubt it. I've put about a hundred miles on the 728 this week and it was a bit of a disappointment to get back into my 12 month old A6 yesterday. The E23's still drive fine when they're in good nick and whilst all the doubters out there continue to shout them down we can pick up cheap parts. My business partner is driving a 52 plate 318i estate as a temporary car until next month and he says that he prefers the E23. ------------- Regards Simon 1985 728i SE E23 2004 Audi S4 4.2 Quattro Cabriolet
E23 Stabilise your depreciation. |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 13:24
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Thank you, Begining to think I was the only e23 fan hear. I will restore this car and it will be mint , and yes it may be a wast of muney but some ones got to do it. ------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 14:45
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Rob, I have a 735i in the same colour Cosmos Blue. its not too naff in the flesh. its a sort of silvery blue and will polish up a treat. the ebay car looks pretty clean in the pics, I would want to check it over for myself before declaring it landfill or worth saving. pics can make almost any car look reasonable. the rims are too modern for an E23 but will sell nicely on Fleabay. the car comes with a hoard of spares as well. if it was closer I'd take a gander. ------------- Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile |
robs e23 wrote:Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 15:53
MARK, DID I SAY YOUR CAR WAS LANDFILL, NO I AM ONLY COMENTING ON THE CAR ON EBAY, IT DOSENT MATTER IF YOUR OR ANYBODYS CAR HAS RUST,AS LONG AS YOU ENJOY IT. PHILIP IM ONLY SAYING I DONT LIKE THE COLOUR OF THE EBAY CAR.THE WHEELS ARE NAFF AS WELL.MARK, DID I SAY IT WAS A WASTE OF MONEY, NO. GOOD LUCK IN RESTORING YOUR CAR, I WILL READ YOUR COMMENTS ON HOW YOU GET ON. PHILIP, SOMEONE HAS GOT TO LIKE COSMOS BLUE,YOU DO PLEASE GENTS,LOVE YOUR CARS TO BITS 
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Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 16:23
| are most e23 cars landfill YES. as andyboy says the only ones worth saving are minters. theres nothing wrong with driving crud around, as long as your in the AA or RAC to get you home.or if you get fedup with it dump it on the side of the road or phone hiaboy for a price. |
Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 16:25
Remember: GOD HATH SPOKEN -------------
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 16:26
A what? -------------
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Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 16:30
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the isopon easy sand king.
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Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 19:09
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It goes like this.........
The last Mark 2 Jaguar was made in 1969. Twenty years later, they were worth a fortune and still are. Sadly, no BMW saloon made in the sixties is really worth more than a couple of Grand. The newest E23 is now 19 years old, the oldest is 28 years old. If they were going to rise in value, they would have done so by now. In ten years time, a nice one will still be worth £1000 because they will never be fasionable in the way an old Jag or Merc is. For whatever reason, there are very few old BMW's that are serious collectors items (i.e worth more than £25'000 in top condition)- of the postwar stuff it's the 507, CSL, M1 and, er......that's it really. Mercedes Benz on the other hand is different. Whereas most seventies and eighties BMW saloons are pretty worthless, similar aged Merc stuff always has a value. It's not that Mercs are vastly better cars - often they're a load of crap (C Class) - but for some reason the percieved value of an old BMW is vastly less. Some are better made. The E30 was always a bit of a rust heap but the 190E seems to last a lot longer. A classic case is the old 6 Series. Most BMW breakers will have them piled up and I've seen loads in ordinary scrapyards, dumped in side streets etc. These were the same price as the W107 SL which even in rough condition (and boy, they can REALLY rot) will still command £4000 and you'd be lucky to find one of those on the back of a scrap truck. The old 6 Series is like the Jaguar XJS, Opel Monza etc - they will have a loyal following and curiosity value but will never be really, really valuable in the same way the old CS Coupe isn't particularly sought after 30 years after the last one was made. I wonder why this is? |
Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 05:47
| its a true tale unfortunally andy boy is right. e23 or any bmw will always play second fiddle to the more desirable cars. theres only perhaps a handfull of people who like the e23 and they are all on this site. if i dident aquire my e23 when i did, and it needed restoring i wouldent bother. dont get me wrong, i think the car is well made for its time but why have a car like this when there were more interesting models around. but saying all of this i will keep this model on the basis that i LIKE IT. but for everyday driving i wouldent choose it. i would have a modern car in todays driving conditions. |
Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 06:52
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majority of people don't buy an old car to use on a daily basis, but that doesn't meant they can't be used that way, after all, the options you thought were desirable then and were expensive back in the 80's, majority of basic cars have them as std today.
Lets not get into a 'knock the e23' ala the old 7 board, as each to their own. I personally dislike the majority of 80's Mercedes, as to me they are old 'manish' quite boring and just as bland as some of the mainstream BMW's of the same period. The only one I would like would be a 2.5 evo 190, but as it is so far out of my reach, I don't bother even thinking about it. Jags rust as badly as any other car, and the Senator/Monza etc, nice cars, but to me that's all! |
Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 07:33
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Well I used an E23 as an everday car - in fact,
several. The first one was a T reg 728 auto which I used day in day out in all weathers. 16 mpg made it very expensive though. But that was 7 or 8 years ago and today, very few of them will stand up to 1000 miles a week use. It would just be a constant battle. As for Mercs; a gloss black 560SEL (87-91) with original alloys in mint condition still looks good and is a very impressive car. A gold 280SE with chrome arches and velour trim doesn't, and isn't. A Jaguar XJ12, as a weekend car, beats both of them hands down - probably the best saloon car ever made. An E23 felt like a big Cortina after an XJ and the later XJ40 was just a piece of rubbish that never recaptured the waft appeal of the old Series 111. |
Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 07:50
the e23 in todays standards, yes well made, rust like hell as ALL classics do but we enjoy them. dident mean to upset you boys but its said now.ill get my coat, bye bye... 
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Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 08:19
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The way I look at it, is they ALL rust.
Still as long as whoever buys an e23, enjoys their purchase then that's all that matters, that's the way I look at it. No need to get your coat Rob! 
AG |
Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 08:32
| did you read the artical on the six forum about the chap who has just bought a 635 for 5,000 only 500miles from new from a old gal whoes husband died and left it in the garage. exellent now that would be nice.hope he puts the pics on the site... |
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 08:42
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some great posts guys. andyboy - someone once said an E3 is a very well made and engineered Ford Consul, and I laughed and agreed. the E23 is a big Cortina, with simple RWD engineering, well screwed together, and late high spec models have some nice toys. andyboy - totally agree with you re the XJ40 vs the Ser III XJ....what the hell did Jim Randle & his team do to the Jaguar marque? AG - totally agree with you, the E23 slagging got boring on the old register so lets all accept that E23 fans a just a few old nutters, harmless nutters. its cruel to larf at nutters. Robs - how is your E23 coming along? keep the lively comments coming guys. ------------- Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile |
This chat board would be VERY boring if it was just a small clique of cronies all agreeing with each other, like a mutual admiration society.Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 11:08
| hi philip,i managed to save and repair the front offside wing, its taken 3 weekends to do it but today its sprayed and finished. that was a chore,i thought id done it last weekend but ended up stripping the paint off again as the clear laqure reacted with the paint after 2 hours. so i went out and bought some different make of laqure and it worked a treet. i also think i mixed the last lot with to much hardener.i will be putting the parts back this week and should have it on the road when the bad weather has gone, ie no salt. did you get your blue 735 back from the repair shop. how does it drive, have you got any pics. rob.. |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 11:20
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Im not old I'm 20 but I am a nuttey e23 er
------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 11:29
| hows that gearbox mark is it ok now or are you going to change it.. |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 13:46
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Is ok at the mo not used sice friday exsept to jump the e30 wich had
not moved since sun last weak, gave the e30 good going over lots of wax
about 2 coats. No one came to look at it thow.
------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 14:32
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Mark - are you selling an E30? lets hear some details with pics. you show tremendous class being into E23's at the tender age of 20 Rob - sounds like you are making solid progress. she will be ready to show off soon. I started cleaning the blue 735i today, its still very much work in progress. I started cleaning the engine bay and will gradually clean the car from front to back. pics very shortly ------------- Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile |
Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 15:33
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Yep, bad weather to do work to a car! Rob, looking forward to seeing this car, hope you can a chance to post a few pictures of it once done. AG ------------- we're the Sweeney son, and we ain't had our dinner..... |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 16:07
Yep red 318 touring 89 g , not bad for 16 years, new rad, termastat,
had head rebild end 03 with new cam,valvs,water pump, I like this car
as for a 1.8 goes very well, uses no oil. just can't aford it. shame.
can't seam to post pic thow what am i doing rong.
------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 17:48
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Mark, you can't post pics direct to the board. you must host your pics elsewhere on the Net, then post a link to the pic on the board. I use Yahoo Geocities. you have to pay a monthly fee AG uses a free pic hosting service.
------------- Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 18:16
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Killian will host the pictures for you, you will be able to post them directly when your post count gets to a preset level ------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 13-February-2005 at 18:21
Wonder what that level is.....? Must be 10,000 or above. -------------
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Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 14-February-2005 at 01:59
yep, car will be done end of march, trouble is the more i do the more detailing i find to do. 
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Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 14-February-2005 at 03:33
| That's typical, get one part looking good, you find it either shows up another part, or you find a part to do whilst you were doing what you were doing originally. The 4Th bridge & paint springs to mind! |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 14-February-2005 at 12:51
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Hear are the pics e30 http://www.the7seriesregister.co.uk/forums/index.php?act =ST&f=27&t=336&st=0#entry1486 bit long hiper link would not werk so you have to copy and past. ------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |