A tourer with what
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Topic: A tourer with what
Posted By: orkboss
Subject: A tourer with what
Date Posted: 15-February-2005 at 16:20
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Someone stated in an earlier thread that they owned a 1.6i tourer. I thought the 1.8i engine was the smallest size engine for the tourer. I was pondering over this as I own a 318i tourer and a 316i saloon. Now the 1.8 engine has a duff cylinder with a low compression reading of 100psi and I thought of taking the 1.6 engine out of the saloon and dropping that in. Great for cheaper insurance with only a small drop in performance. Then I was thinking in my daydreamy way of thinking how I would have to explain to the insurance broker how I have a tourer with a 1.6 engine and not a 1.8 and dipite being the same type engine would they classify this as a modification. Mind you I might just keep the saloon its got a few more dents but the paintwork is good. |
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Posted By: billgates e30
Date Posted: 15-February-2005 at 16:26
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yes, they did do a 316 touring, not sure what the production dates were but i have heard of a lot of people who have bought them. ------------- Bill Gates aka Chris 
http://www.bmwclubne.co.uk - BMW Club NE |
Posted By: Mark R
Date Posted: 15-February-2005 at 16:56
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Personally i would not fit a smaller engine to the car. You can pick up 318i engines for cheap monies, or even put in a 318iS engine...
316 Tourers were made 1991-1994 ------------- Mark Roberts 
E30 318iS Wessex Region Secretary E30 Registrar & committee member Someone left a note on my windscreen. It read 'Parking Fine' that was nice |
Posted By: orkboss
Date Posted: 15-February-2005 at 17:19
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OOoo dont tempt me with the 1.8is engine. Lovely but the chance of picking up these cheap I don't think. The reason I would put the 1.6 engine in is for economics. I already own the engine so it is not going to cost anything. Getting a 1.8 engine is still going to cost me £200 at least, thats against the rules of bangernomics. |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 15-February-2005 at 17:24
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I'm ready to be slapped down here, but I thought the 1.6 was actually a detuned 1.8 The same was as a 318 can actually be a 4 pot 2.0 litre ------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: orkboss
Date Posted: 15-February-2005 at 17:29
| Not detuned but same block with different bore |
Posted By: neileg
Date Posted: 16-February-2005 at 08:51
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I have a 1992 316i touring. It's not fast but I still overtake most things, given a bit of clear road! The 1.6 and 1.8 versions of the M40 are identical apart from the bore, and the ECU, so far as I know. There's only 10 bhp difference. The M10 engine is different, and there were detuned 1.8 engines that were badged as 316. I don't think the touring was availble with the M10 engine, so your swap should be straight forward. The 318is swap, although possible, is not as simple as the engine management is quite different with 4 coils. ------------- Cheers, Neil |
Posted By: orkboss
Date Posted: 16-February-2005 at 09:29
| Would you believe it I parked behind a Black 316i tourer today on a k reg with a rusty tailgate. So there we have it. |
Posted By: Simon325i sport
Date Posted: 16-February-2005 at 13:27
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A friend also has an L plate 316i touring and it's an auto...very sluggish!! ------------- 
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Posted By: Nick DE
Date Posted: 16-February-2005 at 13:52
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I thought there was the:- 316i = 1600 318i = 1800 In Germany 316 is 1800 Carb, 318i is 1800 fuel injection ------------- Go Darkness |
Posted By: Simon325i sport
Date Posted: 16-February-2005 at 15:18
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Early 316's were 1800 carb engine's, they were replaced in 1988 with the 316i and 318i M40 engined cars. -------------
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Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 16-February-2005 at 16:17
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Pre facelift models
316 = 1766cc 90 bhp 318i = 1766cc 105 bhp taken from my old owners maual.  ------------- V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate J Reg Saab 900i 16v '63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe R reg Honda PC50 moped.. No BMW as yet... |
Posted By: orkboss
Date Posted: 17-February-2005 at 00:30
| So the 316i is 95bhp I guess. |
Posted By: neileg
Date Posted: 17-February-2005 at 08:07
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No, the 316i M40 is 105 bhp and the 318i M40 is 115 bhp. ------------- Cheers, Neil |
Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 21-February-2005 at 08:42
| my wifes 316i Lux touring is a 94 car (on a L) and it's quite peppy with a manual box! |
Posted By: orkboss
Date Posted: 21-February-2005 at 13:26
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What Lux features makes the tourer a "Lux" |
Posted By: Simon325i sport
Date Posted: 21-February-2005 at 19:15
14" x spokes 6 button OBC Front foglights Rear headrests They're the main things. -------------
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orkboss wrote:Posted By: orkboss
Date Posted: 25-February-2005 at 06:56
| So basicaly the 6 button OBC (on board computer?) is the only addition as my tourer has those features. |
Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 28-February-2005 at 10:31
It would seem not as my '93 316 Lux Touring has (or had) the wheels but not the obc or headrests. I agree about it being spritely - much quicker than I thought it would be. Downside is it's a bit noisey if you're tanking on & it drinks like a Geordie on a Friday night. Doubt if there'd be much difference insurance-wise between a 316 & 318. My daydream is to fit a 2.0d enginge - 150bhp, chipped to 190bhp with 253lb/ft torque. Enough to scare E30 M3's !
------------- AndyS Live each day as if it's your last - one day it will be. http://www.photostick.co.uk/view-933_BaurSig1.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: billgates e30
Date Posted: 28-February-2005 at 14:55
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make sure you leave the 316 badge on the back andy
if you think that thing is thirsty you want to try the 325 ------------- Bill Gates aka Chris
http://www.bmwclubne.co.uk - BMW Club NE |
Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 07:54
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I suppose it's all relative . . . the 635 isn't exactly economical!!!
------------- AndyS Live each day as if it's your last - one day it will be. http://www.photostick.co.uk/view-933_BaurSig1.jpg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Bavo
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 08:12
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Sorry to break the subject but how do u get your pics up there above your sig. Ive tried adding [URL] etc to mine see below all it does is print the web link ? Ta Stevie ------------- 1990 E30 320i Touring in Brillant Red, with Cruise control and trip computer! 
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Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 12:50
you want {IMG} use [ instead of {. click and copy, then paste into sig, made it a bit smaller and cropped slightly. Can be a bit clutterd if sig. pic. too big. ------------- V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate J Reg Saab 900i 16v '63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe R reg Honda PC50 moped.. No BMW as yet... |
Posted By: Bavo
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 14:22
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Thanks mate got there in the end ! ------------- 1990 E30 320i Touring in Brillant Red, with Cruise control and trip computer!
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Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 03-March-2005 at 08:50
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my wifes touring is a 94 Lux, and the spec from new is
15" BBS alloys, cloth interior, no obc, no rear headrests, manual box, stereo, electric front windows & sunroof, and finished in Maurtius Blue. |