Was hunting on autotrader and came across this, could be a real labour of love if it took someone's fancy. 

http://search.autotrader.ie/cgi-bin/advert_detail.php?page_num=3&record_id=3319144&class=cars&pos=26&locale=atie.cars.1&distance=&SearchID=ad12fe244b0845cbf426dc9e0ecc7d42 - http://search.autotrader.ie/cgi-bin/advert_detail.php?page_n um=3&record_id=3319144&class=cars&pos=26&loc ale=atie.cars.1&distance=&SearchID=ad12fe244b0845cbf 426dc9e0ecc7d42

PS. I've nothing to do with the seller at all, am not connected in any way

Pity it is'nt a 318!

Cork City?? not a boy raced car??and clean??

Is it driving?

hmmm E30 baur - tempting!
Advert doesn't say much about mileage, etc. What does 'needs tidyied' mean?

kbannon wrote:  What does 'needs tidyied' mean?

I'd say it's a bit of a shed

if anyone is intereted in that baur just be warned,i brought over a 1985 323i baur just before x-mas and was hit with a €1200 V.R.T bill.

i was expecting about €500 v.r.t. but what can you do but to pay it. 

kbannon wrote: I was reading on http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2514577&postcount=100 - boards.ie about a guy who was told by the revenue that VRT had to be paid on an off-road bike - seemingly they were quite insistent!

just a small question ..but how much are you guys stung for VRT???

it seems daft amount of euros are added on something witch is so cheap over  here ...

pma1ums wrote: just a small question ..but how much are you guys stung for VRT??? it seems daft amount of euros are added on something witch is so cheap over  here ...

Naturally our revenue commissioners decide what the OMSP is!
This is also separate from our punitive annual road tax.

Assume a new car has a retail price of 10k, then add the appropriate VRT rate and then add 21% VAT on all of that. This is why many older cars here were of standard spec - adding options increased the retail price therefore incurring more VRT & VAT.
There is also the claim from some quarters that safety is being comprimised because the manufacturers are omitting some of the pieces here that are standard elsewhere (IIRC the new golf here has less airbags) for this very reason.
However our Govt. make so much money from it that it is not likely to go for a while.

blimey ....and i thought i just lived in rip off uk ...you guys get so so so stung its unbeliveble....not fair at all ..... when i vist your great place [have the odd bit of family over cork way] i love it ..but allways wondered why i saw basic cars   with  massses of road tax on ..i looked at a nice 530 d   while i was smoking outside of a bar ..i nearly fell over at the charge for the years road fund ......and i had only one pint

apart from that i love the place and the gardia sometimes[dont ask why lol]...i now understand why my freinds over there drive 1 litres cars ...

i argued the point of price with the V.R.T. office in santry and asked how they came up with that price.there was no disputing with them .

they said "you pay the v.r.t within a week or get the car out of the country".i was held to ransom.Apparently they had no record of a 323i tc baur ever being registered in this country so they had to go and research the price.(if anyone can tell me different im all ears).

inanyway, i didnt learn me lesson i brought a 1984 323i baur over one month later and went through the same process.

i sold the 1984 323i to my sister so my impulse buy didnt get me in too much trouble with the missus

jrafferty wrote: Apparently they had no record of a 323i tc baur ever being registered in this country so they had to go and research the price.(if anyone can tell me different im all ears).

I suppose there was no chance they would just have thought it was a dodgy vinyl roof, eh???

jrafferty wrote: i argued the point of price with the V.R.T. office in santry and asked how they came up with that price.there was no disputing with them .

There is an appeals procedure if you think the figure is wrong.

The are 2 lines of reasoning that I would consider using is:

1) if no direct comparison is available, value it similarly to the nearest model they have a value for, e.g. a 323i 2d saloon.

2) if none had been registered here then value must be linked to or similar to the UK price in a worst case scenario, since that is the only realistic source.  Would a similar condition Baur cost stg£2800 in the UK (effectively thats the grossed up value they have put on the car).

How does the revenue commissioner get away with this? This must be illegal

Well that's being discuss as many EU member states feel like it's an illegal tax!

Unfortunately as noone, apart from us can gain anything from it, I don't expect anything to happen soon!

VRT is a misnomer if you ask me and should be named VVT - because it is after all a "vehicle value tax".

Shouldn't VRT cost the same whether your vehicle is worth £3000 or £30000? It takes the same amount of time to register every vehicle so why should it cost more to do one than the other? Is is just me or is this illegal?

Harry

Forget VRT. Why isn't car tax based on the amount mileage you do as opposed to the size of your engine.

You do 30,000 a year no matter what size engine you pay a rate of say  2% after all you are using the roads more 600 Quid

You do 5,000 a year you pay 2% smaller amount, but you have not used the roads as much. 100 quid

In other words you for what you use, seems very fair to me.

Bopsy

I'm guessing your total annual mieage is reasonably low??!

I do 20-25k miles per year between 2  * 2.5 litre cars.  So, for me, either way is just a different approach to proctology.

A guy took on revenue years back stating it was a tax on a tax, but lost.  Grounds may have been that if he had won, then the state would have been brought to court by every person to have ever paid VRT, and on precedent would have lost them all and had to refund them all, which would have crippled the country.

The next time you're bringing a car in, log on to http://www.revenue.ie - www.revenue.ie and click the VRT calculator.  This will give you an idea of the cost of the VRT you'll have to pay; however, this is not hard and fast.  It will also give you an idea of the OMSP.

i used the online v.r.t calculater before i went over for the car.there was no listing for a 1985 323i conv.

here is what i calculated:

1985 320i conv=€350

1986 325i conv=€600

1985 323i saloon=€400

prices are not accurate as i cant remember exactly but they are within €30 accuracy.

based on the prices above i figured i would have to pay about €500.

well i was wrong.