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Topic: any advice on ’82 735i and ’85 728i*pics*
Posted By: ejwillistyles
Subject: any advice on ’82 735i and ’85 728i*pics*
Date Posted: 12-April-2005 at 14:37

my problem is this....

my dad loves these cars and has ended up with a '85 728i which runs and is fine, and an '82 735i SE with LSD.  sadly he has to get rid of them both (something to do with hoarding old cars and no space!!).

anyways to cut a long story short the 735 ECU developed a fault a couple of yrs ago and it was left in a local barn whilst we "considered!!" the problem, alas vandals got hold of it and it no longer has front or back screens  , which is a shame as it was a superb car, as i'm sure you lot have heard a million times....

i am wondering if anyone could advise me what the best way to approach maybe selling both together as a running car with MOT (728) and a spares car (735), or perhaps sell the 735iSE for parts??? would there be any interest from this site????

any help much appreciated

Ed




Replies:
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 12-April-2005 at 15:56
Has the 735 got lether intear if so what couler,  You are best to try e-bay  or put it in the adds is a classic car mag best one being Practcal classic thay also do the same for spares cars  adds,  I need lots and lots of spears for mine but have no space for a breakeralso I have not got the hart to brake a e23 it would bring tears to me eysdam vandals
Good Luck and welcom to the form


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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad


Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 13-April-2005 at 04:08

Hi Ed,

there will be much interest in both the cars!

Is your Dad willing to sell parts from the 735i, or only the entire car?

Can you post some pics of the cars?

or give us details of the colour of the cars, and the type of trim they have, leather or cloth, colour of seats, condition etc.

Where are the cars located?

Please stay in touch, and give us any more info you can.

regards,



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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile


Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 13-April-2005 at 12:24

thanks for the replies and warm welcome

there has been some interest already in the cars, and having spoken to my old man i think the decision is to sell  the 728i on ebay as suggested. i'm really surprised how good these cars are, to be honest i've never really paid much attention (as they are my dads) but having driven it today around where it is being stored its a really nice car in good condition, and started first time!(its been stored either at our house on and off and a local barn). i have taken photos and these will be with the auction, and judging by the way everything works and how it drives i think it should get an MOT before then.

the 735i is available to take away as a whole rolling spares car / or alternatively if there is any interest out there for parts, then PM /email me 

a warning to anyone looking for parts... get in quick as unfortunately the 735 has outstayed its welcome in our driveway!

 

really glad i found this site as its been so useful to see what these cars are about, and also top meet people who could benefit from our poorly one!

 

 

 



Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 13-April-2005 at 12:40

bmw1066 - the 735 has velour interior, sorry!

and to Philip and others who need more details, i will try to post some photos tonight.

the breaker (735i) is aqua blue metallic (i think thats what it said under the bonnet), and has covered 86,348 genuine miles. it has LSD (i'm told by dad), and i see its got the ?rare? 3  speed auto box, and a sweet engine (again told this but when i had a peek at the oil today it is golden even though its been sat around for a good couple of years!). its missing basically the drivers window and front and back screens due to the vandals, but everything else is there, including some gadgety type 80's Blaupunkt stereo thing!! oh and today i noticed theengine struts were in not so great shape on the 728i so sorry i have already taken them off the 735i and transferred.

another thing that may be of use is that it was owned by a wealthy fella locally who spent the earth on it and i'm again told specced it up well, so there may be some stuff that I don't know about that could be worth having.

hope this helps, as i say i will attempt to get some photos up tonight.

thanks
Ed



Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 13-April-2005 at 14:12
does it have the stereo in the rear centre armrest? Or is the first aid kit there?

(OH and welcome aboard)


Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 13-April-2005 at 15:11
pretty sure it doesn't have a rear stereo in the armrest but will check for you


Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 13-April-2005 at 18:54

some photos of the 735i.note the bonnet struts are now on our 728 as is one of the rear light lenses as our other one was slightly cracked.

 

 

sorry about the rubbish small pics!! Pm/email me for more photos if needed.

 



Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 13-April-2005 at 19:07
Whot couler is the inteara thanks

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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad


Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 13-April-2005 at 19:25

blue velour but really needs a good clean up as the glass and ****e from the broken screens is everywhere, but the seats are actually in pretty good nick, and i think could well be cfleaned up fine?? perhaps....

more pics here :(please excuse the Jap connection - this is my gallery!!)

http://board.hondacrx.co.uk/phpbb2/modules.php?set_albumName=album170&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php&page=1 - http://board.hondacrx.co.uk/phpbb2/modules.php?set_albumName =album170&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index& ;include=view_album.php&page=1



Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 14-April-2005 at 13:24
Year older than mine,  will you break bits ot the car,  I need a set of wing mears as some one niceley knocket into mine, also I need a exaust how good is it as mine is blocket if not how mich for the car, Oh and has the car got a on bord computer as I am very very despret for a OBC ECU
 meny thanks, Mark

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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad


Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 14-April-2005 at 16:52

Hi,

Loads of good parts on the 735i, please don't have it crushed just yet. I would like to come & buy some parts. I will know whats worth buying when I see the car.

Who wants what bits all you E23 nutters?

Ed, when are you/your Dad available?



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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile


Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 18-April-2005 at 05:56

I am available on and off all this week as I'm off work for the week so ideally all those people wanting anything then drop me a PM or message here and I will do my best to take bits off / help you guys do the same!

thanks

Ed



Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 18-April-2005 at 06:31

Excellent Ed!

How much money are you wanting for various bits?:

I am after the actuator for the cruise control. its in the engine bay behind the battery and quite low down. its a black plastic unit with a cable coming out of it which goes to the throttle body. it also has an electric cable coming out of it which runs to the bulkhead. please cut the loom by the bulkhead and carefully remove the actuator.

Mark requires the ECU for the on board computer. this is located in the left hand recess behind the left hand speaker plastic trim located in the footwell quite low down. remove the speaker trim and you will be able to find/remove the silver metal ECU.

AG requires the cruise control stalk or maybe all three column stalks.



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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile


Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 18-April-2005 at 07:01
cruise stalk ideally.
Phil, didn't patrick have a cruise actuator, or was that to be used on his e23?


Posted By: eta.
Date Posted: 18-April-2005 at 09:36
AG, Haven't tested cc on my 7 yet. Replaced the ecu in the footwell using the one you so skillfully removed from my donor 728.

You still after the stalk?


Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 18-April-2005 at 09:42
certainly am!


Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 18-April-2005 at 13:49
I'm up for a road trip,

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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad


Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 19-April-2005 at 06:23

Ed,

Are you thinking of taking bits off the car for selling here or on ebay?

engine ancillaries and electrics are always in demand, as they often fit E28/E24 as well as E23. Eg:

PAS pump

Alt.

A/C Compressor

Relays around the fusebox & engine bay generally

lamps & lenses

boot & bonnet & doors if not rusted



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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile


Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 19-April-2005 at 18:46

Philip, AG, Mark and others.

I'm not going to put the bits on ebay as I really don't have the time to take everything off and go that route.

the car can be bought as a rolling donor car if there is interest (and this would no doubt be the easiest for me) - make an offer!!!

or (this option seems more likely) I can get bits off, so long as i know you are keen!!! I only have this week to have a holiday and sort cars out so PM me the specific details of what you want and what you are prepared to offer for the bits you want. i will trust your judgements to offer a fair price on the bits

ideally come and get the bits this week / weekend (pref saturday)...... or if they aren;t too big i can hold them for slightly longer but no guarantees on that.

if you guys want to make a road trip of it and come by saturday or something then let me know....



Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 20-April-2005 at 05:03

Hi Ed,

is the 735 stored near slough?

This Sat I am touring round East anglia delivering & collecting items from/for my hoard.

I would love to take the whole car but last time I took a scrapper a neighbour put a nasty anonomous letter thru my door

 

Please remove some bits from the car and one of us will collect them on behalf of the E23 Hive. Can you keep bits till the weekend of 30th april/1st May?

Would a tenner per item make it worth your while? its mucky work and no fun for a non BMW lover.

For me please:

vacuum actuator as per my earlier posts.

PAS pump.

engine bay relays - small square metal relay mounted on the bulkhead, driver side of car, open the bonnet and you will see it. all the relays in/around the fusebox.

AG wants cruise stalk

Mark wants OBC brain

Who wants other parts guys? eg radiator, A/C bits, Alt.

make it worth Ed's while guys.



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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile


Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 20-April-2005 at 07:42
hi i think i want the alternater. and towbar for the brown turd.


Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 20-April-2005 at 18:11
Is eneybodey up for a drive then,  meat up some were and e23's are go and all that. as we all need bits.

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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad


Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 20-April-2005 at 19:28

Philip yes the 735 is near slough, we are about ten minutes from slough very close to J1 M40 - its actually in my parents drive at the moment which is going down really well as you can imagine!!! and yer for those bits 10 each sounds fine

bits confirmed sold are:

rob  - tow bar (ready to go as of today ), do you want alternator?

mark - ecu for definite. do you want wing mirrors/exhaust?

Philip I take it you def want those bits above i.e.

vacuum actuator

PAS pump

engine bay relays - small square metal relay mounted on the bulkhead, driver side of car, open the bonnet and you will see it. all the relays in/around the fusebox

AG - do you def want the cruise stalk?

anyone else??

took the tow bar off today,and had a good look underneath. looks like it has Koni yellow dampers fitted (dad tells me that it did have about 6k's worth of stuff done to it but unfortunately can't remember what!!! doh!) so thought i should bring these to light.

also has a BMW exhaust in what looks like good condition, but i'm unlikely to be able to get it off without drilling off bolts etc....

erm, the rad and oil cooler? (is that what it is to the sides of it) is in like new condition.......

someone who knows what they are looking at might be better at dropping in and telling everyone what is worth having.

the car is going to the dump on 27th so let me know about any bits ASAP!

 

 



Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 21-April-2005 at 03:43
I'll have the CC stalk, and does your car have the OBC indicaotor stalk as well? If so I'll have that, plus put me down for the Koni's.
I'll PM you to confirm.

Thanks

AG


Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 21-April-2005 at 04:15

Hi Ed,

I can pop over on Sunday 24th if convenient for you?? say around 2pm??

AG, you have beaten me to the Koni's they MUST be saved! To get the koni's off will Ed remove the entire strut/spring assys? If AG is not grabbing the road springs, I will grab 'em if they are not knackered. I reckon VJ's front susp is well soft

Ed, yes please I want the items on my list for sure.

the exhaust MUST be saved if in good nick. keep us posted Ed. If the exhaust will not separate I can put it on my roof rack; I drove from Nottingham to Essex in my E28 with a complete E23 system on the roof!

Ed, is there a decent stereo in it?

Ed, does the rear parcel shelf have speaker pods on it and maybe a pull up sunblind? If so, that should be saved.

What other bits do guys need?

 



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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile


Posted By: Hiabboy
Date Posted: 21-April-2005 at 04:33
 Ed just happens to be a neighbour of mine , so much landfill within a 2 mile radius , it must be illegal .I'm going to peruse the collection , i'll post and tell you fiends whats hot and whats not .The only thing that interests me is  the Blaupunkt and possibly the roof panel and o/s/r door as the car is sapphire blue.

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Profit is more reasonable than justice.


Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 21-April-2005 at 04:37
Hiabb
I hear your a bit of an 'old stereo buff'. What Blaupunkt is in this one?

I'll have the springs as well as the shocks Phil!

Where is the car guys?
AG


Posted By: Von Paulus
Date Posted: 21-April-2005 at 05:03
If it's near Hiabboy then it will be a prime location - I
picked a car up once from Iver Heath and there are
some serious houses there.
Also a shocking discplay of Christmas lights in the
'council' area nearby. It was worth getting lost just to
see them!

Imagine the team from Location Location Location
turning up at a house there, and the next door's drive
is full of rusting E23's leaking fluids, various oily
gents hacking bits off a carcass and the buzz of T
Mobiles.

Property values?

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Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 21-April-2005 at 05:29
ill be there, sunday to pick towbar up ed.


Posted By: Hiabboy
Date Posted: 21-April-2005 at 08:51

   What a lovely day to frag an e23!. I've checked out both turds, 728i and 735i. The 728 is tidy , sapphire with blue velour , it runs well and i believe Ed and his dad are swapping the exhaust from the 735 o nto it and getting an mot for it. The 735 is a real sad turd , even Paul Daniels couldn't fix it BUT it has reasonable bumpers, bonnet and boot, the front lights appear o.k. We've had the engine cranking and trying to fire but there is a fuel issue , we're going to have another play to see if we can get it to run,the inside of the head looks like new . it has a 3 speed box, the rad looks like new, the rear shelf has a 'shagging blind'. The Blaupunkt 'stalk' is now safely in my collection.  I'll keep you sickos informed if we get the turd running



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Profit is more reasonable than justice.


Posted By: Von Paulus
Date Posted: 21-April-2005 at 11:49
Originally posted by Hiabboy Hiabboy wrote:

 it has a 3 speed box



Column change?

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Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 21-April-2005 at 12:54
nothing wong with the 3 speed box works very well and is as smoth as.

Philip, Rob are you going up on sunday woud you like to meat up there or some were near. maney hands make light work,
 I now need 2 wing mears as mine are faling apart glass is going to fall out and it looks boged and I also need air con rad and spear AC pump mabe cable running to OBC and OBC display.
Sory to hear your probloms on selling you 735 Hiabboy, I also had people ringing up at stupid times when selling my e30.

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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad


Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 22-April-2005 at 10:05
ray mears, im not going to light a fire with sticks mark. or eat fried woodlice etc. spear, the only spear i like is brittany, now shes a honey.


Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 22-April-2005 at 11:03

ok sunday sounds good, but Philip and others, the time is going to have to be earlier if you want to take bits off (perhaps 11.00 depending how long u think it will take), as I have to be gone by 3.30pm latest. 

as you realise by the above comment, i havn't had a chance to take anything else off (only tow bar), so anyone wanting my help to take stuff off sunday is welcome, but I don't have time to do it before then, or after - sorry. the other thing is i don't know these cars and without a manual am not going to get what things are! so anyone coming either bring yr knowledge or manual and we can sort this!

cheers

Ed

PM me for address / phone number

 

 



Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 22-April-2005 at 11:08

Rob, are you going to Ed's on Sunday? If so, we could travel together maybe? Let me know your plans.

Rob is the expert spanner man here, so i hope he's up for it.



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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile


Posted By: ejwillistyles
Date Posted: 22-April-2005 at 11:12

sounds good!

yes rob is coming over.......



Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 22-April-2005 at 13:23
Me to on sunday

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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad


Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 22-April-2005 at 15:55
sorry chaps, but wont be staying, just picking towbar up then down to clacton for 1pm.    


Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 22-April-2005 at 16:51

Ed, bmw1066 and myself need your address for sunday. can you send us a PM with the info & contact #.

Rob, is the towbar off the car? if so I will collect it on your behalf if you want. what about the Alt. you wanted?

Mark, Slough is M25/M4 to the west of London. do you know how to use the AA website to get directions & maps?

is AG coming?

 

 



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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile


Posted By: robs e23
Date Posted: 22-April-2005 at 16:57
philip not after the alternator now so if you know someone there welcome. philip make a list of what you want as when its gone its gone, ive done that in the past and forgot to get etc etc..


Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 22-April-2005 at 18:17
Originally posted by Philip Philip wrote:

Mark, Slough is M25/M4 to the west of London. do you know how to use the AA website to get directions & maps?

is AG coming?


Ok thanks Philip, do you wont to meat some were or shall we meat there I am more than likley to get lost if I can get post coad I will plug it in the the AA, Good to see you comeing as well AG



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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad


Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 24-April-2005 at 03:36

Ed,

Mark & I are coming today. AG can't make it. Lovely day for it. see you later.



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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile



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