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Topic: Telling fibs on insurance applications?
Posted By: Goldryder
Subject: Telling fibs on insurance applications?
Date Posted: 11-May-2005 at 13:16
An RAC survey has reported that 1 in 10 people tells a fib when applying for car insurance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4535669.stm - Have you ever told a little white lie on the application, if so, what did you fib about?



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October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding
March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise
October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise



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Posted By: B 7 VP
Date Posted: 11-May-2005 at 13:27
 So-----By telling YOUR White lies--do you think it will help to improve the chance of lower premiums for us, as if we dont get Ripped off Enough !!!!!!!

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SAFETYFAST


Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 11-May-2005 at 13:35
Insurance is often very expensive and I, for one, have not and would not tell a fib just to try and reduce the premium. Its like the article says, a false economy and anyone who does tell fibs is asking for trouble in the event of a claim.

Just not worth the hassle but obviously there are people who do it.

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October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding
March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise
October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise


Posted By: owenw
Date Posted: 11-May-2005 at 14:53
Surely the insurance company declare these policies null and void in the event of a claim when they discover falsified details were used on the application?

They have weaseled their way out of many a claim payment due to the smallest unintentional mistakes, never mind blatant lies.

Then you have those ppl who don't even bother insuring their car in the first place and in this country only receive a little http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=17343&PN=1 - slap on the wrist when caught .




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OwenW - E36 318is


Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 11-May-2005 at 18:50
As Owenw says, any excuse and they'll weasel out of paying so it ain't worth telling porkies. having been rear ended by an uninsured driver I agree about penalties, the dork who slammed me got hit in rear by a van at same time, mangling front and rear number plates, after which he refused to give a name or address to drivers or attending police who let him go. Then they wonder why people try it on!

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IanT
E28 528, E23 735


Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 00:57
Not getting insurance is just as moronic as telling lies on the application imho.

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October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding
March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise
October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise


Posted By: mmm-five
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 04:34

Never needed to - the 'little fibs' don't know much off the premium anyway. I got quotes for keeping my car in a locked garage, on the drive, and on the street, and the difference amounted to less than 5% between the 3 (£50 in my case).

The same went for limited mileage policies - if I limited my mileage to 10,000 miles then I only saved £50 over having a 20,000 mile limit, and only another £25 for an unlimited mileage policy.

This & last year I went with Liverpool Victoria and went for the full package, business use, social & domestic use, commuting, unlimited mileage, parked on the road in Liverpool and it still worked out less than £1000.

£1000 sounds a lot, but when you consider the cheapest I could find 2 years ago was £1400 (and I tried about 50 companies), and I have had a £3k claim since then, it was a bargain.

It's just not worth the risk to someone who has a lot more than £50 to lose in the long run. Not that the guy who came to assess my damage even looked at the mileage, or ask where it was parked, etc. He didn't even check out the actual damage, just wanted me to lift the bonnet for a suspension damage claim?!?!?!



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Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 07:31

Not entirely related but along the left hand/right hand thing, we had a card through yesterday morning, gas engineer called. Wendy rang to see what problem was, supervisor said engineer would be back asap, they'd had a report of a serious gas leak.

He came back, nearly missed him again as by time I got to door he was on car park about to leave.

Asked him about gas leak, who'd reported it and he said no report, new meter reader had been round, didn't know gas meters inside on this estate, couldn't reconcile electric meter reading with his paperwork, so reported we'd taken gas meter out and were stealing gas. Engineer knew different and thought it was funny, but what a waste of everyones time!



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IanT
E28 528, E23 735


Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 07:57

Ok so you lot have never told a small lie! Are you sure? How many people garage the car every night when they speak to the insurance company but in reality don't always bother? This kind of lie is very common, in fact a mate of mine admitted to it the other day.

It can't be compared to driving without insurance.

I have told a lie or two. When I was younger I failed to disclose modifications I had made to a car to my insurer. Foolish I know and I wouldn't dream of it know, unless it was undetectable, like an reprogrammed ECU.

Also I had my insurance cancelled once. I had been involved in two own fault accidents in my first year of driving. A couple of years later someone decided to pull out in front of me and I was unable to avoid a collision. My insurer informed me that they would process my claim against the other driver but would have to cancel my policy with them because until it was determined who was at fault I had in effect three own fault accidents in the last 5 years. This was the icing on the cake. Not only had some fool smashed my car up, my insurance also went up, although only in the short term.

A year or so later when I changed companies I was asked if I had ever had an insurance policy cancelled, to which I replied no. Not deliberately, it just didn't occur to me at the time. I thought they meant because of loss of license or something like that. It wasn't untill years later that I realised that it applied to my situation as well. Still I got away with it and haven't had another crash since, touch wood! Big Smile



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Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.


Posted By: Brett_M5
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 09:57
I have an 8000 mile limit on mine. Last year I did 10000 (taken from my MOT). My renewal came through yesterday, do you think it's worth changing it or not to bother?

Cheers

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1999 E39 M5
1995 E36 M3 - Sold


Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 14:12
Originally posted by Brett_M3 Brett_M3 wrote:

I have an 8000 mile limit on mine. Last year I did 10000 (taken from my MOT). My renewal came through yesterday, do you think it's worth changing it or not to bother?

Cheers


'Tis up to you, I doubt there would be much of an increase in premium for the extra couple of thousand miles. Probably be to your advantage to have a higher annual limit or just go for unlimited, depending on your age, driving record and NCB.

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October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding
March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise
October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise


Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 14:17
Went with an insurence company who wouldn't insure an E30 320i with an iduction kit, said I put old one back - Ian/Wendy know different..

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V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate
J Reg Saab 900i 16v
'63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe
R reg Honda PC50 moped..

No BMW as yet...


Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 14:56
I knew of a bloke who put on his application for insurance that he had a 2.0 litre Sierra. He pranged it one day and a mate of mine asked me to go retrieve it for insurance purposes. Got to where it was and stood there for a few mins wondering why it looked odd. Seemed the pillock had insured it as a 2.0 litre cos he couldn't afford to insure it as it was....a Sierra XR4x4i.

He was not a happy bunny when he was nicked for having no insurance.

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October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding
March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise
October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise


Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 15:17
ooops..

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V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate
J Reg Saab 900i 16v
'63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe
R reg Honda PC50 moped..

No BMW as yet...


Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 15:19
Silly pillock had removed the whale tail but you only had to take a peek under the bonnet and know that a V6 engine isn't the same as an inline 4.

Dozy so'n'so.

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October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding
March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise
October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise


Posted By: D12TRE
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 15:42

i agree but at the moment im the only driver on my policy and to put my girlfriend on it it went up £850!!!!! at the mo i pay £875 fully comp   so i said leave her off BUT if she drives it she is insured because she is fully comp on her car so she is covered

thats the nearest ive come to lying   although she wont drive my car shes scared of someone keying it up and having to tell me that my babys scratched lol

darren



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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 17:34


Is it my imagination, or is that tail spoiler sagging in the middle?

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Posted By: D12TRE
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 18:17

i dont know if its ment to be that way but on top it is shaped like that i havent seen any bm stamps on it so it might a after market one i didnt fit it i would be interested to find out if it is genuine bm part???

darren



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Posted By: D12TRE
Date Posted: 12-May-2005 at 18:18

Mmmmm Mmmmmm ?????????

you got me paranoid lol

darren



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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 13-May-2005 at 03:50
Its the heat of the hi-line stop light that over time makes the spoiler a bit saggy in the middle...

I had one on one of my 827's that did the same after a while, if you get a mate to stand on the brake pedal and you put your hand on the spoiler while the light is on, you will soon find that you got nice toasty paws.

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October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding
March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise
October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise


Posted By: Badger 540
Date Posted: 13-May-2005 at 08:24

That's why I changed mine to LED's. Hopefully, now the fresnel lens is sealed into the spoiler, it won't have to come off (well certainly not for a bulb change).

Andy



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Badger540      West Midlands



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