One to rescue
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Forum Name: BMW 5 Series
Forum Discription: This forum will deal with any issues on the BMW 5 Series (E12, E28, E34, E39, E60 & E61)
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Printed Date: 28-April-2024 at 10:01
Topic: One to rescue
Posted By: Tetleysmooth
Subject: One to rescue
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 09:48
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Anyone fancy rescuing this old girl: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31351&item=4550513959&rd=1 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category =31351&item=4550513959&rd=1 ------------- If you've got it, a lorry brought it. |
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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 09:52
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What a nice old lass that is. Hope she finds a loving home soon, one that will restore her back to former condition and all for a damn good cause too. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 12:05
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I would also like to see the above go to good home, but go into it with eyes open, it looks good but has been stood for some time, and although it's for good cause they may not know true state of the car. My first BMW, the 525e, was a charity auction car. It had very near FBMWSH, and they assured me to their knowledge it was solid. Come MoT it proved to be rotten front to back underneath, though body, interior, engine and autobox were all fine. I'm not suggesting it was deliberate or that all charity cars should be avoided, but much as I love them E28's can be very bad. Hopefully this one will be as good as it looks and make the charity a lot of money! ------------- IanT E28 528, E23 735 
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Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 12:43
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That is an e12, so very possibly likely to be even worse than yours
Ian! Would be nice to see such a rare beast saved, regardless of what
some people think of them (as discussed recently). I've never seen one
up close, although I did see a very clean one getting banger raced
about eight years ago because it failed the MoT on a bit of welding.
Shame.
------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk 
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Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 13:10
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As you say, rare beasts, I've just bought an engine from one for £5, only prob is it's up near Rhys! Would be great to think it'll be saved, if anyone wants to the lady with engine has seats(black), bumper, grill and some other parts from her one. Here's list. "I have a Front bumper in fair condition, but has been painted black but the paint is able to be removed I have four fair cond doors with electric windows Radiatior
front grill pre 1980's
black seats
if there is anything else you want ill check if i have them i have lots of things so forgotten what exactly i have"
Wasn't sure what would fit an E28 but was thinking on her asking price of £60 for the job lot in case they helped some one struggling to save an E12. ------------- IanT E28 528, E23 735
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Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 14:28
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Yes!! Lets waste £75 rescuing an undoubtedly
rotten, seized up example of a long forgotten BMW that wasn't very good even when new. Hmmm, on second thoughts, lets not let the steel industry be deprived of another ton of ferrous waste. I've just bought a 1997 520i Auto (that'll be an E39) with a blown head gasket for £1000. THAT is worth rescuing. Scrap like this E12 is just suitable for the foundry. |
Posted By: Tetleysmooth
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 15:14
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True to form, like a cracked record isn't it. The yawn factor is now at an all time high... ------------- If you've got it, a lorry brought it. |
Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 15:32
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Great plan, spend 10 times what we do on something that needs major work! D'oh. ------------- IanT E28 528, E23 735
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Andyboy wrote:Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 16:21
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Ok, I've just been through most of the 5 series technical forum, and
it's the same old same old. "Ah, you guys buy old cars that I think are
crap, so I'm going to ridicule you for it and tell you how I plan to
spend a small fortune on a car that is much better than yours." Andy,
if I wanted to I could buy your E39 ten times over. But I don't beacuse
I prefer the looks and driving experience of the older cars. Why paint
your house blue if you wanted it green all along?!! That's essentially
what you are saying. We want old cars, yet you demand we drive newer,
nicer(apparently) ones. And why? To whose standards are we matching up?
What expectations are we meant to fulfil? I'm off to write to Practical Classics to tell them they are all wrong. Why drive an old car when you can have a new one for twenty times the price?? ------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: 525i zeemax
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 16:32
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Here Here. If the wife would let me my E34 would be gone and I'd be driving around in a E28 ------------- loud, proud and skint!!! |
Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 16:34
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Seems some people only see the scrap value of a car and not the classic it really might be. Such a shame to be so narrow minded and somewhat insulting to come onto a site whose members generally prefer the older models and basically treat the said members with disrespect and those older models with equal disrespect too. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 16:35
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Ach, the E28s are only little things. Park it across the street and she
will never suspect a thing! Get a nice shadowline car, I hear they are
quite rare and worth lots of money in good nick.
------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: 525i zeemax
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 16:39
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I once owned a very nice 528 IA. till some one hit me in the side. I'd have that car back tommorrow if i could. ------------- loud, proud and skint!!! |
Posted By: 525i zeemax
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 16:45
 ------------- loud, proud and skint!!! |
Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:07
Y'know, Andy, with your tales of your past exploits (automotive and sexual), it's no wonder WCUK has progressively become... er.... WC...... Still, no surprise there...... -------------   
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Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:18
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So, if you could afford a ten grand E39 Doive, why are
you driving a 1982 Chevette? Yeah, righto Matey. As for ten times as much - hardly. I have a brand new unused 2 litre short engine I bought at a dealer clear out sale for £80 6 years ago. This car will be fixed and on the road for under £1500. It's worth £3500 when done. Hmmm, nice reliable modern BMW and a couple of grand profit. Lovely! THAT is worth doing. Buying a scrap E12 for £75, spending the next 3 years welding it back together and selling it for £76, is NOT worth doing. Only an idiot would do it. Don't get me wrong ladies, I like a lot of old BMW's. I drive one every day which is now 16 years old with 225'000 miles - I'm not proud. My track car is a 1989 320i which I bought off ebay for £120 and in which I have been to the Ring and back. But unlike you guys, I can differentiate between an old car which is worthwhile and one which is just a worthless money pit. But that's why I've had cars you will never own! 
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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:22
Andy, look I don't know you and you don't know me but I tend to judge by what I see and so far all you ever do is slate other peoples choice in a car. You have no idea what financial limitations they may have or if they just plain prefer to have the older less sought after car. By all means make a point but surely you could try using a little tact and maybe a bit of courtesy too occasionally. You might not like the cars, but some do and you ought to be man enough to respect that and not shoot people down or insult them. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:23
Haaaaa! I've just read your post!! Hey, didn't you just buy a 1985 528i with a smashed rear door and a cooked engine for £105? Bargain!!! 
Sorry, I'll stick with my £1000 E39 thankyou! Yours for £3500 when it's fixed............ 
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Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:36
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Goldryder - I hear what you are saying and so some
extend I agree - tact is not my middle name. E28's are fine by me. I actually ran a string of them and part ex'd my last one, a Royal blue 518i Lux (a great old car with 210'000 miles) for my 320d. The main dealer didn't know what do do with it but hey, he gave me £500 off. I had a couple of 518i's, 520i manual and auto, one 525i, a couple of 525e's (probably the best E28 really) and a 528i which was just stupidly thirsty. Never had a 535i tho. None of my E28's ever broke down except for when the gearlinkage fell off my last 518i because the good who fitted the clutch didn't refit the pin clip. They all worked for a living up and down the motorway. My first E28 (I ran seven of them in total) was a 1982 Y plate 525i in Doom Blue. I bought it from an auction one wintry night in 1989, excited as hell about my first E28. It had done a spaceship mileage and had a dented wing but I fixed it up all the same. I don't hate E28's at all - quite the opposite. Hell, the E reg 525e is out on the drive looking at me like a bloody abandoned puppy. As I drove him home last night it seemed a shame to scrap it so here's an offer - the first £66 buys it. Is that fair enough? The thing is though, and my point, is that you can buy a REALLY GOOD E28 for under £500. By really good I mean a clean one that drives nicely and has no issues. These cars are so cheap now that it's cheaper to buy a good one than it is to try and rescue knackered rubbish that should be scrapped. I don't know how I compare age wise to everyone else here - I'm 37 and consider myself 'grown out' of the rescuing bangers phase. I've got better things to do but am clever enough to make my car hobby pay for itself. Some of you guys should do the same, take a step back and ask yourselves what it is you're trying to achieve with non running dented crappers. If I can buy a decent tidy E28 for £66, so can you. |
Posted By: whiterider
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:40
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Your intelligence reports are faulty Andyboy, a rear door is said to be dented but not enough to be seen in a photo, and the engine is not, and never was, cooked. I don't know if your E39 is worth £3,500 fixed but Ian doesn't like the later models, not even the E34, so if you're relying on him, Doive or Tetley being jealous your going to be stuck with it! |
Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:40
With all due respect Andy, if people choose to buy cheaper and older cars, who are you to critsise them or insult them for making that choice. You might not have done it but that doesn't mean you have to lay into those who do. Its not just tact, its common courtesy and sometimes you definately lack both. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:50
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What I don't lack though is common sense.
Oh sure, I HAVE bough crappers and blown money on trying to fix them. Christ, where do I start? How about an early E28 520i auto that was known as 'The One Speed Wonder'. I bought it for £200 about seven years ago and thought the brakes were stuk on. In fact, when you put it into drive, it went straight into top gear. Hills were a problem. Found another gearbox but on the way back from the breakers the head gasket went. At that point I stripped anything useful worth having off it and got shot of it. So yes, I've been there too. But the difference is I now know what cars are a complete waste of time and which ones aren't. I've been exceptionally lucky to buy an E39 for £1000 - I won't be getting any more of those that cheap for a while. But stuff IS out there if you set your sights high enough. Tired E28 £100, spend £400 to get it going. or: Go out and buy a good E28 for.........£400. Hmmm, tough call. Do you not see where I'm coming from? How much did Philip pay for his black one anyway? That's a pretty smart one. |
Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:50
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With less respect, what do you mean "sometimes" he lacks both. I am pretty physically limited to how much I can do now, but buying, restoring, just working on old cars gives me pleasure. I don't insult the people who buy a new car and have it dealer serviced, I have always preffered a more "hands on" approach, and as my father was a good, trained motor fitter and he taught me. If you will take a cheque dated for the first of june I'll have the shadowline 525E for £66, pm me your address and it'll be in the post tomorrow! ------------- IanT E28 528, E23 735
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Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:54
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Wher do you get your information? £105 for car, £37 for radiator, £5 for complete spare engine, £0 labour costs and £20 of leaded fuel as a treat for it to drive it back with, thats way under £400 on my calculator! ------------- IanT E28 528, E23 735
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:55
You have the perfect credentials to be a lawyer  . Welcome!
...or getting too clever by half? -------------
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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:56
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Just try and be a little more diplomatic Andy. OK you might have done these cars til you are blue in the face but give those who love to tinker with an old car some credit. You might think it a waste of time, thats your perogative but you shouldn't behave as if they are stupid or dumb just cos they like to buy cars that you probably wouldn't touch with a 20ft bargepole.
You have your ideas and they have theirs, live and let live and you might just get on better on the site and not get warnings and be banned so much. Just engage brain before fingers and look at things from their point of view and offer advice on how to maybe do things better, but you shouldn't shoot them down for making a choice that you wouldn't. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 17:58
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[Edited] Andy....behave ------------- |
Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:02
Oh God, here we go.... -------------
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Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:03
More than £66 though! Na na na na na! 
Well, whatever floats your boat. But I'd rather be out driving an E28, not lying under it. These cars are now old enough to require weekend fettling (cambelts, discs, etc) so guys, give yourself a head start and BUY A NICE ONE! I'd really love an Alpina B9 or B10 E28. Sorry, but BMW's don't get much better than this. Peace, Brothers. 
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Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:03
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Ian, I've edited Andys post as well, lets not go here in open forum mate. ------------- IanT E28 528, E23 735
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:05
Yes, but Mr. Everett is a sometime hack for "Total(led) BMW", so you should really expect this Peter Hitchens-style guff every so often -------------
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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:06
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Whoa..thats enough...this thread will get locked soon if you keep going Andy, just give it a rest and try and be reasonable. It won't kill you.
This thread was a valid one about a car thats known better days, there is no need for it to turn into an all out brawling session spurred on by jibes from you Andy. Calm down. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:09
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That does explain a lot, I'm on the Practical Classics readers panel, however, they preach tolerance for all involved with old cars, anything anyone loves enough to run is their classic! ------------- IanT E28 528, E23 735
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Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:10
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Pack it in.. ------------- V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate J Reg Saab 900i 16v '63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe R reg Honda PC50 moped.. No BMW as yet... |
Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:11
Ian, I know it is hard but try not to rise to his taunting, it serves no purpose but to make him happy. Just best to ignore him completely or this and any other thread he tries this silliness on will be locked and then no-one will be able to put a point of view across. ------------- October 2-6 2008 - Houston, Texas - Long Distance Wedding March 15-April 1 2009 - Transatlantic Cruise October 10-25 2009 - China, Korea, Taiwan & Japan Cruise |
Posted By: Andyboy
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:15
No Comment! 'My client wishes............' |
Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:16
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I did try, till he made an unwarranted false personal attack, all I did was put the truth. Fair do's the moddys stopped it. We were all having a nice talk until andyboy started. Since when has "nanana" been grown up! I only tried to take him up on his offer to save a rare car, not because I wanted it, I don't! ------------- IanT E28 528, E23 735
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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:18
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One more post in this style and I'll shut the thread.
------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:21
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As it appears I am part of the problem I'm of for the night, bye everyone! ------------- IanT E28 528, E23 735
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Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:21
You know nothing about me. Matey. You make assumptions according to what you read in a selection of posts on a forum, this is hardly conclusive proof now is it? Besides, who are you to say what I can and cannot drive? ------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 19-May-2005 at 18:24
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I give up ! ------------- Best Wishes Nigel |