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Topic: one for the scientists..
Posted By: sleeper
Subject: one for the scientists..
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 07:59

Whilst making the tea, I have been pondering this question. Maybe someone on here knows the answer...

When you make tea, if you put the sugar in while the teabag is still in the mug, does it absorb some of the sugar, thus making it less sweet???

hmmmmmm...

 



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Posted By: mmm-five
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 08:16
The water in the tea leaves will absorb some sugar solution, however if you wring the teabag out to get most of the water out then the amount of sugar loss will be less than 5% and probably unnoticeable.

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 08:23
good answer, but what about the paper in the bag?

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Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 08:28
What was your basis for the 5% assumption? Wouldn't you need to know the grade of tea and nature of the bag itself before calculting %lost?

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 08:45
yes the capillaric effect of the bag fibres and leaf density must be taken into account.

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Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:06
Without a doubt

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:09
busy day again derek?

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Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:10
I'm struggling here today, I gotta admit. Whoever took my motivation can they please return it to my desk!

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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:15

The only sugar that the tea bag will absorb will be that which is disolved in the water that the tea bag absorbs. Assuming the sugar is totally dissolved and the tea is stirred to give a total homogeneous mix then any sugar removed will be proportional to the amount of water removed and hence will not have any effect on the sweetness of the tea.



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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:15
Originally posted by Derek M5 Derek M5 wrote:

I'm struggling here today, I gotta admit. Whoever took my motivation can they please return it to my desk!


definately not guilty

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:16

tuesdays are usually pants. like wednesdays and mondays...

 



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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:20
I think the formula for it is:-
((t/w) * s) ^ w = x
where
t = weight of tea (mg)
w = volume of water (ml)
s = weight of sugar (mg)
w = force of wringing (P [1 P = 1 Newton/sq m])
x is the result which indicates that you have far too much time on your hands!


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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:25

Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

x is the result which indicates that you have far too much time on your hands!

How true! Big Smile



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Posted By: BMWE34sport
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 09:54
Oh my word there are some truely bored people today .....

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Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 10:15
It becomes less of a problem if you suck the teabag after use.

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Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 10:47
Nah, 'cos if the bags splits then you end up trying to get the leaves out from between yer teeth

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 10:54

Originally posted by BMWE34sport BMWE34sport wrote:

Oh my word there are some truely bored people today .....

lol!



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Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 10:56
And we haven't even started on whether you get a greater capilliary draw on a pyramind bag versus standard!!

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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 11:16
and what about all those in the Scottish Region who re-use their teabags? 




(memo to myself - prepare for some slaps!)


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1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual


Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 11:21
So by your own argument K, does that mean you'd need less sugar on the second use?

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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 12:39
Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

I think the formula for it is:-
<font style="font-weight: bold; font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="2">((t/w) * s) ^ w = x
where
t = weight of tea (mg)
w = volume of water (ml)
s = weight of sugar (mg)
w = force of wringing (P [1 P = 1 Newton/sq m])
x is the result which indicates that you have far too much time on your hands!



*tea-soaked GROAN*

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Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 13:33
Sorry, much as I'd like to help, our house is a sugar free zone. Will be interested in any conclusions other than there's a lot of very bored people about today

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Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 14:21
To ensure zero sugar loss, remove teabag before adding sugar.....

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Posted By: G0ph3r
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 14:54
Originally posted by Dergside Dergside wrote:

To ensure zero sugar loss, remove teabag before adding sugar.....


Or, as we do it...Put the teabags into a pot, add hot, but not scolding, water. To a cup or mug add a little milk if required. Then pour only the required amount from the pot to almost fill the cup. Add the required amount of sugar to the cup, stir, then serve.  No loss of sugar or milk and you could even have seconds if the pot can accomodate.




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Posted By: NOISUFNOC
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 15:06

Dont know what is being suggested about us scottish members. Ive managed to make a duvet cover from my recycling of my teabags, and as Doive points out you can suck your teabags once used.

You can bleach you old tea bags then dry them thus enabling you to reuse them and they look good as new.  And you dont even need to waste sugar, its way to expensive, simply dunk a chocolate biscuit until tea reaches desired sweetness then serve as usual.

cheers



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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 16:58
Originally posted by Derek M5 Derek M5 wrote:

So by your own argument K, does that mean you'd need less sugar on the second use?
tbh, I wouldn't know as I don't drink tea or take sugar. Im a strong black coffee addict myself!


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Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 18:06
..you can also use old t-bags as miniture grow bags by putting a slit in the middle and planting a seed in it. It does work..

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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 18:13



"Ah...will ye not have a cup.... ?"

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Posted By: rubberknees50
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 19:08

Originally posted by Rhys Rhys wrote:

..you can also use old t-bags as miniture grow bags by putting a slit in the middle and planting a seed in it. It does work..

Thats not the way Charlie Dimmock does it!



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IanT
E28 528, E23 735


Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 24-May-2005 at 19:39
A bullet would be wasted on you lot.

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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 25-May-2005 at 07:51
But why would you want to grow miniature tea bags? I prefer a mugful meself!

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: 25-May-2005 at 08:39

Originally posted by G0ph3r G0ph3r wrote:

Originally posted by Dergside Dergside wrote:

To ensure zero sugar loss, remove teabag before adding sugar.....


Or, as we do it...Put the teabags into a pot, add hot, but not scolding, water. To a cup or mug add a little milk if required. Then pour only the required amount from the pot to almost fill the cup. Add the required amount of sugar to the cup, stir, then serve.  No loss of sugar or milk and you could even have seconds if the pot can accomodate.


doing it that way, you can't adjust the tone, strength and hue for a perfect cup though.



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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 25-May-2005 at 10:01
Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:



A bullet would be wasted on you lot.



ooooooOOOOOOOoooooh...

sounds like someone didn't get their breakfast in bed today...

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Posted By: Goldryder
Date Posted: 25-May-2005 at 10:03
I only drink camomile tea or fruit teas..and the bag should be steeped in the hot water for as long as possible to get the right measure of flavour out of it....allegedly



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Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 25-May-2005 at 11:42
enough of this tea-bagging please, oops sorry wrong forum!

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