rr_ww wrote: kevs635csi wrote: dont it make you mad when you see a women in an m3 or any m car i bet they aint got a clue of what it is or its pedigree, here's a classic example ,only this morning some sort in a p reg m3 was round my steet dropping some granny off or something, ive seen her & this car before ,any way i was watching the car & see was revving the balls off it trying to reverse, she had 3 attempts to reverse instead of going forward on full lock a bit she decided to reverse up on the kerb (only the drivers front wheel went up the kerb) & anyway crunch it went as she ripped off half the under tray where the foglamp goes ,did she care did she balls ,just carried on as if it was normal , no wonder theres so many abused m cars out there its not us caning them its the bloody enemy's crap driving , winds me up seeing women in any good car & they aint got a clue how to drive it ,the only decent women driver ive seen is that sabine bird on the n/ring Odd thread Theres rubbish drivers of both sexes. If its not your car being damaged by anybodies drivng then why get upset?

Alright Rich! hows things?

I think what Kevs is eluding to is the fact that it may be enthusiasts purchasing the cars at a later date and may end up with more used and abused and neglected cars than they might do if previous owners were more careful!

kevs635csi wrote: the only decent women driver ive seen is that sabine bird on the n/ring

....and that Danica Patrick bird that drives Indy cars in the states

Bit Harsh Dude

My wife drives my M3. She has done a high performance course and gives it some stick never curbs the wheels etc

Bet there are plenty of guys who cant drive them either.

Chris.

Yes. Statistically isn't it the women who kerb wheels and cause minor parking dents etc but the men who write the car off altogether!

i wasnt having a go at women drivers in general just this one particular one , who probably aint got a clue what type of car she was driving or how to drive it properly ,just abusing it, m cars should be owned by enthusiasts not imbeciles this goes for male m drivers too, how many new m3s have you seen driven by suits who dont apreciate the car, just got it for a status symbol & run them into the ground, they wouldnt know an e30 m3 if it fell on them, this is why theres so much rubbish on the used M car scene . I hate it when you see a women in a nice bmw & you ask them what one it is & they say oh i dont know a bmw i think, probably like this woman i saw yesterday, 

ps I have never met a really good women driver dont mean to say you lot hav,nt

Im with you Kev, apart from a said TV "stars" ive never met or been driven by a good woman driver

Not to say there not out there but most see a car as an A to B thing and dont really care how they drive..

 Some examples?

 The middle aged woman I used to work with who was , in her  own words” an excellent driver” but had never in 20 years driven on a motorway because she was too scared, my ex used to have “silly little knocks” all the time and wrecked my gorgeous e21, she hit a dust cart lorry and instead of stopping, just panicked and carried on, forcing the whole side of the car into the (stationary!) dust cart

I know us blokes write our cars off but never have I heard a bloke say he wouldn’t go somewhere because he was scared of driving !

They tail gate,(don’t deny it..they do!) don’t appreciate time/distance, I can tell you on an average ride out on my bike, the majority of people who pull out on me are women drivers..

…and don’t get me started on parking……..I have to park my car well out of the way, they all come out en masse after work and smash their doors into each others cars trying to get in

As I said, there are women out there who can drive but for the majority it’s not on the top of their agenda

I am sick of seeing perfomance cars wasted too.

if only people had to 'qualify' to be able to own one... to start with they should know what they have got and appreciate it!!!

RAAAAAAA!

kevs635csi wrote: i wasnt having a go at women drivers in general just this one particular one , who probably aint got a clue what type of car she was driving or how to drive it properly ,just abusing it, m cars should be owned by enthusiasts not imbeciles this goes for male m drivers too, how many new m3s have you seen driven by suits who dont apreciate the car, just got it for a status symbol & run them into the ground, they wouldnt know an e30 m3 if it fell on them, this is why theres so much rubbish on the used M car scene . I hate it when you see a women in a nice bmw & you ask them what one it is & they say oh i dont know a bmw i think, probably like this woman i saw yesterday,  ps I have never met a really good women driver dont mean to say you lot hav,nt

1) You are right about invompetent drivers (female and male) driving high performance cars. They buy them just for the prestige...

2) You may have seen my recent post about my temptation  to buy an E36 M3 3.0 1994 M reg. Well I didn't buy it and not only for the reasons I mentioned at my post, but because I also test drove a... Jaguar XKR 4.0 2000, with...only 370bhp. Awesome car, that gave me big smiles as I was "playing power games" with little and big GTIs and the like, during my test drive. For the first time I liked an automatic car (usually I adore to play with a manual gear stick )

3) Oh, did I mention I'm a woman?!?

I_MNL wrote: kevs635csi wrote: i wasnt having a go at women drivers in general just this one particular one , who probably aint got a clue what type of car she was driving or how to drive it properly ,just abusing it, m cars should be owned by enthusiasts not imbeciles this goes for male m drivers too, how many new m3s have you seen driven by suits who dont apreciate the car, just got it for a status symbol & run them into the ground, they wouldnt know an e30 m3 if it fell on them, this is why theres so much rubbish on the used M car scene . I hate it when you see a women in a nice bmw & you ask them what one it is & they say oh i dont know a bmw i think, probably like this woman i saw yesterday,  ps I have never met a really good women driver dont mean to say you lot hav,nt   1) You are right about invompetent drivers (female and male) driving high performance cars. They buy them just for the prestige... 2) You may have seen my recent post about my temptation  to buy an E36 M3 3.0 1994 M reg. Well I didn't buy it and not only for the reasons I mentioned at my post, but because I also test drove a... Jaguar XKR 4.0 2000, with...only 370bhp. Awesome car, that gave me big smiles as I was "playing power games" with little and big GTIs and the like, during my test drive. For the first time I liked an automatic car (usually I adore to play with a manual gear stick ) 3) Oh, did I mention I'm a woman?!?

Excellant

I_MNL wrote: NICKM3 wrote: theres nothing cooler than a woman in a fast car

Except for a woman on a fast bike!

Got another couple of examples

My ex boss used to come to work extra early to park in her favoured 2 or 3 parking places..If she was a bit late she used to come in and chuck the keys to one of the guys to park it "in the tight corner"..and we'd have to get it out for her again in the evening

She also once stalled on a hill aproaching a roundabout, stalled it again, then the traffic behind beeped their horns at her..so she got out of the car, locked it(right on the approach to the roundabout) and walked home in tears

I don't reckon it is a woman thing.

You see all sorts of people drinving cars you'd kill for, but doing it really badly.  Out of the 911's you see on the orads, how many of the drivers really look like they enjoy scraggign the balls off them?

I agree with the thread re it being a prestige thing.  People buy cars that they think they will look good in.  Sometimes these are cars they can't even see out of, or know where to chck the oil, or where the spare wheel is, or reverse into a parking space - and the list goes on.

You have to say though that the last laugh is against us, because they can afford said car, and we can't - hence the prestige thing works!

The trick is to sell all your property and invest in the cars you want - NOW! Don't wait for that 3 years of false propserity before you retire and realise you will have to sell the dream car you've just bought, enjoy it now, and damn the future!  I may be a financial adviser, but this advice is not regulated!

Enjoy what you've got, and don't be envious of others, whether they have the cars they deserve, or the ones you think you do.  We all end up in a he****!

pretty bad typing there, sorry.

+ the last word was edited by the system, and wasn't a profanity!

last 4 letters make a four letter word that rhymes with "farce", and when added to the first 2, make a vehicle we travel in to meet our maker

he**** and farce?? what rhyme is that? lol.

My wife likes to sit and smoke the tyres when pulling away at junctions 'ooh, I wondered where that smoke was coming from - i thought I had broken it!'

I don't like this bloody naughty word thing!

edit: it didn't work then!! bit like my 'cartman' chip!!

Now you've got me scared!

I'm good, but not that good. 

Te he.

Beware advice to make "smart money" - it is usually either crooked or designed to relieve you of yours.

I was only being silly in the suggestion but it seems sad that most of us when in our motoring "prime " have to make do with less than the best, while those who are over the hill can afford the peachy motors.

SFH3L wrote: .....but it seems sad that most of us when in our motoring "prime " have to make do with less than the best, while those who are over the hill can afford the peachy motors.

Absolutely. Most people can't afford the car until they are too old to really appreciate it.

As for the rest of the thread. Eh!

Some women are bad drivers and so are some men.

I would rather see a woman in an M3 doing a bad job of parking than see some bloke driving like a nutter putting himself and other road users at risk.

Sexist rubbish, IMO of course

As rr_ww said near the begining of the thread, if it isn't your car then it doesn't concern you. If some one wants to go out and buy an M car then ding it on a curb then that's up to them. Get over it

SFH3L-

please put some weedkiller on your driveway!!!

lol!

Good point re the weedkiller!

Trouble is the children kick balls about on the gravel and then into my pond, and any trace of weedkiller kills my fish!

Made the decision to have a scrappy drive and nice fish, not the opposite.  Good spot though.

I didn't have any driving lessons.

just done the test.

I learnt in farm vehicles, teaches you good percision manoevering, to keep your eyes open at all times and awareness of your surroundings/surface reading etc!

sleeper wrote: I didn't have any driving lessons. just done the test. I learnt in farm vehicles, teaches you good percision manoevering, to keep your eyes open at all times and awareness of your surroundings/surface reading etc!

My brother-in-law learnt on farm vehicles too. He failed to attach his trailor to the tow hook correctly and it crashed through the local pub. Landlord wasn't too happy, nor were the police. Then there was the time he was airlifted to hospital after rolling his tractor..........

sleeper wrote: I didn't have any driving lessons. just done the test. I learnt in farm vehicles, teaches you good percision manoevering, to keep your eyes open at all times and awareness of your surroundings/surface reading etc!

alright ben, how do

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