Car of the year 1978
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Forum Name: BMW 7 Series
Forum Discription: This forum will deal with any issues on the BMW 7 Series (E23, E32, E38, E65, E66, E67 & E68)
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Printed Date: 08-May-2024 at 22:51
Topic: Car of the year 1978
Posted By: bmw1066
Subject: Car of the year 1978
Date Posted: 30-August-2005 at 13:28
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The E23 BMW 7 WAS THE CAR OF THE YEAR 1978 Along with the Porshe 928 and the Ford Granda. ------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
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Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 31-August-2005 at 12:45
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No it wasn't.
1978 COTY was the Chrysler Horizon. The 928 won in '77. The E23 never won any award apart from the ADAC (German AA/RAC) Lemon award in 1980 for most unreliable new car - it tied with the Triumph Spit-dire. ------------- |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 31-August-2005 at 12:55
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What car 1978, as was the Porshe and the Ford. The old e23 was regarde as a good car off it's day. ------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 31-August-2005 at 13:54
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"What Car" wouldn't know a good car if it ran them over. There were many better cars than the E23, most of which cost a lot less money. There was nothing the E23 did that another car couldn't do better. ------------- |
Posted By: Chas C
Date Posted: 31-August-2005 at 15:14
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At least they got one right.... I still fancy a 928 ------------- 
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bmw1066 wrote:Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 31-August-2005 at 15:54
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The e23 was a successful car whether you like it or not. Thay sold well and people that have had one liked them very much so. ------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: e28 boi
Date Posted: 31-August-2005 at 16:15
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how do you now? ------------- 
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Posted By: eta.
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 01:54
The E23 was ahead of it’s time and was the development test bed for BMW’s future models. Things we take for granted now, were all there in these advanced cars; ABS, A/C, PAS, OBC, cruise control, check control, electric windows, roof, mirrors, electric seats with memory and heated options, airbags (US market) and ‘Motronic’ (digital engine management). 1980 fuel injection on all models. 1981 ABS standard on 735, optional on other models. 1983 onwards, Switchable 4 speed auto available (in association with Motronic, more economical than 5 speed manual). Jaguar and MB had to play catch up to all of these advances. |
Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 04:15
| in fact as far as I am concerned, MB and Jaguar are still playing catch up! |
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 04:37
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with the possible exception of Bangle styling AG I think the current shape XJ8 is just lovely. and they say the diesel Jag is so quiet & refined you cannot tell you are in a tractor powered car. The E65 on the other hand is, eh, different. The latest E65 facelift cars have huge slabs of chrome slung over them, which look like a panicky afterthought to me. AG will now kick my ass, as I know an E65 is on his buying list ------------- Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile |
Posted By: M3AG
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 05:19
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I like the styling of the Jag, but prefer the e65 (well pre-face lift anyhow). The jag, although a fantastic piece of kit, still harks back to the yesteryear styling of the Mk II's and X1, where as BMW have pushed the boundaries further afield.
However, where an e65 is concerned, I'll wait until the B7 is affordable. ------------- we're the Sweeney son, and we ain't had our dinner..... |
Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 12:35
Owning about 6 old E23's, that's how! They were a good old bus but not really exceptional in any area. The V8 Mercs were a lot faster. The big Peugeots like the 604 rode better. The XJ's rode and went round corners better. A Rover SD1 had a lot less windnoise. An Austin Maxi had more room in the back. And the E32 was just a massive advance in every area. Yours for about £500. 
But for all that, an early (79/80) Polaris silver 735i 5 speed manual with black leather would do it for me ....................... ............yeaaaaahhhhhh 
Those early L Jet 3.5's used to go like a rocket and the handling on the pre 82 cars was, er, 'entertaining' in the wet. And the 1979 745i is as fast as the current E65 monster - food for thought eh? ------------- |
Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 12:37
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Maybe I should buy Hiab's Bronzit 735i Exec and be
part of the posse?! 
I must be missing something............ :-o ------------- |
Posted By: Del64
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 14:33
With an e39 540i the only thing missing will be a wedge from your wallet come resale time lest it was bought in traditional manners Andy? If so let me know when you wanna sell,,,,,, ------------- 2009 520d SE Business Edition Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. |
Posted By: eta.
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 14:53
The e32 was just such a quantum leap for BMW let alone other manufacturers. It stands up really well to todays cars. Incredible to think they were out in 1986 (LHD). The e34 cousin was/is a terrific car too. The e23 though is a fantastic car with it's non-windtunnel styling, about a 100Kg's less than an e32 so will see them off any day until the expotentials of wind drag allow the e32 to slip by. It has almost all the bells and whistles of the e32 and is becoming a rare car. I didn't say classic, but maybe ..............! |
Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 15:10
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£500? you must mean a late V8? Roger bought an E regd E32 off fleabay for £250. its just passed its MOT with no work being needed. the fan coupling has just died though. Roger also bought a set of "star" shape alloys for it with good tyres for about £25. cheaper to run an E32 than a Fiesta, except for juice of course ------------- Philip '86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer '85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ '86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga '86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 17:32
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I will say it Classic car can = e23 just not in all eys ------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 18:02
Hardly. It was only £3800 or so. The manual box hurts the resale and it would have been £5000 as an auto. I'm on the case of a 51 plate 530d auto, ex unmarked cop car in Silver with wing/bumper/bonnet damage. E23 Confession: there was a green 728i manual on fleabay a month back. It didn't sell but I had a fifty ready for it - next years 'Ring weapon. Christ, even the Krauts would be concerned at the sight of that bugger going though the karusel. Sideways. "Sheisse!! Der mad Englander mit die alte BMW Panzer kommt!.........." You'd have people interviewing you. But I lost the number.........  ------------- |
Posted By: bmw1066
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 18:19
HUMMMM Chepp e23 and the ring, and a bit of nt ross....Sound like fun ------------- Mark 735 se 1982 RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 01-September-2005 at 19:36
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Absolutely. With the 728i diff you'd need to secretly
crane a distributor 3.5 in there and weld the diff up. The E30 M3 boys would sit up and take notice if that thing went hurtling by.  ------------- |
Posted By: Hiabboy
Date Posted: 02-September-2005 at 03:57
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Drew you ain't getting past me in that landfill, i've got a carbon airbox and a sparcock racing suit (and my scuttles rusty) ------------- Profit is more reasonable than justice. |
Posted By: Chas C
Date Posted: 02-September-2005 at 04:17
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I've been after a 540 manual for a while now but £3.8k seems like an extremely good deal... What was the mileage and condition? -------------
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Posted By: Del64
Date Posted: 02-September-2005 at 05:21
Took the words from my mouth Chas seems unfeasibly cheap to me,,,, ------------- 2009 520d SE Business Edition Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. |
Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 02-September-2005 at 08:18
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That's nothing. You can buy a P plate E38 for £3000
these days. I saw one on the trader and was shocked. Recently I bought an R reg 520i with a blown head gasket for £1100. They're out there! ------------- |
Posted By: Del64
Date Posted: 02-September-2005 at 08:34
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E38's are now into the £2K arena for the ones wishing to take on the risk, e39 at £3,800 seems outrageous VFM
Good on yer mate! ------------- 2009 520d SE Business Edition Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. |
Posted By: Chas C
Date Posted: 02-September-2005 at 10:30
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Ironically, I think the manual 540s are the only ones to have. If you want an auto, just get an E38 version, after all they're cheaper, bigger and better equiped. -------------
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