2800cs Project anyone?
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Topic: 2800cs Project anyone?
Posted By: SFH3L
Subject: 2800cs Project anyone?
Date Posted: 07-September-2005 at 01:49
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Having owned my '71 2800 cs for the last 24 years, I am facing up to having to let it go....... I rebuilt the car in the early '80s, with a total ground up, nut and bolt rebuild, with loads of photos to prove it. The shell was seam-welded and had the following done at that time: New front wings, New front inner wings, Both "A" posts and "B" posts completely rebuilt, New outer sills, with rebuilt mid and inner sills, and new covers, Rear wing bottom sections and rear pannel bottom sections, Boot floor repair. All of this was then topped with a couple of gallons of Waxoyl, and a nice paintjob by my local dealer, in Arctic Blue, a colour then available on 6-ser. I drove the car for 3 years and did around 40,000 miles, bring the total to about 180,000. We then put the car into a (dry and heated) storage, where it has remained ever since. As a result, it has seized hydraulics, and would need rebuilt front callipers, rear wheel cylinders and clutch master cylinder. However, there is no rust, and as such this is a fine basis for this kind of car. The trim is all present 7 correct, and the car will tidy up nicely with a little time spent. I have a host of spares, including a complete tan leather interior (incl door cards etc) and a set of BMW/Alpina 6.5J/14 rims and a set of 100+ 7J/14 Alpina lookalike wheels, a short 2.8 engine (used) etc etc. This car needs time and patience, and it will once again be a gorgeous piece of history. Sadly, I need the garage space, and with 2 other classic BMWs and a much older car to worry about, I need the space. I do not want to see this car be broken or cannibalised. I have not advertised the car, but am open to reasonable offers and felt that the forum might be the best place to start. I apologise if this breaches any forum etiquette, but don't feel this is a straight "car for sale" situation. Some pictures follow - to give an idea of colour etc. Sorry about the quality, they are scanned copies from an APS camera... http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/1196.jpg - http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/1196.jpg http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/1195.jpg - http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/1195.jpg http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/1166.jpg - http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/1166.jpg http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/1165.jpg - http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/1165.jpg If you would like to ask me anything about this car, please either call on 01280 860235 or email me on mailto:samlever@thinkpositive.co.uk - samlever@thinkpositive.co.uk ------------- Sam. the original "not for profit" organisation. 
http://www.samleverifa.co.uk - Independent Financial Adviser In Buckingham http://www.samleverifa.blogspot.com - My Financial Blog |
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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 08-September-2005 at 13:11
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Very tempting - I love the shape of the CS coupe. Most people seem fixated on the CSL but I prefer them in a more civilised state with bumpers etc. ------------- AndyS Live each day as if it's your last - one day it will be. http://www.photostick.co.uk/view-933_BaurSig1.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: SFH3L
Date Posted: 08-September-2005 at 15:28
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Andy, I agree - the CSLs can look a bit in your face next to the other coupes. Mind you, with bumbers and no wings they can be lovely too....... http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/SFH3L6.jpg - http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/SFH3L6.jpg That's my other elderly friend, which is a CSL, but a sensibly restrained one (! not at Donnington etc!) . I also have to try and keep the M3 looking nice while I drive it every day, and the final straw is that I have to make room for a 20's Rolls Royce. This leaves the garage over-full, and my list of "jobs" looking like war and peace. Go on - you know you want to. ------------- Sam. the original "not for profit" organisation.
http://www.samleverifa.co.uk - Independent Financial Adviser In Buckingham http://www.samleverifa.blogspot.com - My Financial Blog |
Posted By: SFH3L
Date Posted: 08-September-2005 at 15:29
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That's "bumpers" of course.... ------------- Sam. the original "not for profit" organisation.
http://www.samleverifa.co.uk - Independent Financial Adviser In Buckingham http://www.samleverifa.blogspot.com - My Financial Blog |
Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 08-September-2005 at 16:43
A 20/25 by any chance?....or was that an early thirties model? Me, I like the pre '74 (Shadow 1 based) Corniche FHC and the glorious Camargue. Real Crewe built Rollers and not some ponced up BMW thing. Pics of the Rolls please my Good Man! Nice CS by the way.  ------------- |
SFH3L wrote:Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 08-September-2005 at 16:51
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Sorry, the 20/25 came out in 1930(?) so it'd be a
20hp? ------------- |
Posted By: SFH3L
Date Posted: 09-September-2005 at 04:30
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You know your old cars. 20HP indeed, an ex-factory experimental chassis, one of the very few refettled and then sold on as a used car. The ultimate ex-demonstrator. Driven by one of the men himself for 6 months as his runabout test hack. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/2542.jpg - http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/2542.jpg Been in the family for 50 years, and time we got it back to how it should be. As you can see, that will take more than T-Cut! ------------- Sam. the original "not for profit" organisation.
http://www.samleverifa.co.uk - Independent Financial Adviser In Buckingham http://www.samleverifa.blogspot.com - My Financial Blog |
Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 12-September-2005 at 17:39
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Nice project!
Which Rolls did Penelope Keith drive in 'To The Manor Born"? I think it was a rebodied 20/25 but can't remember. The fully polished alloy Silver Ghost is just a stunning bit of machinery. The best car in the world, indeed. And now it's all owned by the Jerries  ------------- |
Posted By: SFH3L
Date Posted: 13-September-2005 at 03:05
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Yeah, I think 20/25. It was certainly more bulbous and newer. The 20HP has a much more vintage character to it. You definitely see it as part of the 20's and not the 30's. It's like the difference between the CS (very 1960's) and the 6 ser (very 70's). Amazed nobody fancies taking on the 2800 cs. Where's your sense of adventure? In the light of the other posts: I'm not emigrating - My wife doesn't mind if I keep it - I haven't just acquired a company car - we don't have a new baby, or house - but I will admit to it needing a little "tidying". Te he ------------- Sam. the original "not for profit" organisation.
http://www.samleverifa.co.uk - Independent Financial Adviser In Buckingham http://www.samleverifa.blogspot.com - My Financial Blog |
Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 13-September-2005 at 03:36
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I'm only near Bicester - I'd love to come and see the
CS and the Rolls. Then I can tell everyone how good it is! I had a black Sport Evo just like yours too, completely standard condition. ------------- |
Posted By: Grahame_Vincent
Date Posted: 13-September-2005 at 04:35
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Sam What beautiful cars! Thanks for posting the pic's, I wish you luck finding a good home for the CS. Cheers
------------- Grahame 2004 E46 325Ci Sport Coupe, Silver Grey with Black Leather and M Sports Pack II. Used to own:- 1995 E38 730i V8, Black, 18" Fox RS3's, Custom Tint Glass, with Silver Leather 1985 E30 316 Black http://www.villagephotos.com/pubgallery.asp?id_=1066854 |
Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 13-September-2005 at 05:31
More like, where's the depth of wallet? -------------   
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Posted By: Drew540i
Date Posted: 13-September-2005 at 10:20
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Nonsense!
If the body is good, that's the battle won. The rest of it is nuts and bolts - even if the engine was no good, a secondhand E28 528i engine (£150 tops) will drop straight in and convert to carbs. In fact, I would leave it as LE Jetronic injection for economy. The troublesome twin servos? Go to a breakers and find a couple of Peugeot 205GTi's, they're near enough the same units. Obviously you need to keep Waxoyling the thing and Volvo 240 front wheelarch liners fit the CS after some mild trimming and keep the wet mud from the important bits. This could be a cheap way of getting a good CS on the road. Ignore those who say the 2800 isn't as good as the 3.0 CS. After 35 years it hardly matters! ------------- |
Posted By: Daxklynsmith
Date Posted: 13-September-2005 at 14:29
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Agree totally with Drew!! my 2800 CS is as much fun to drive as any 3.0CS in fact if I recall there's about5 bhp difference betwixt them. as for the hydraulics and and Brakes it took us about 3 hours to clean the solidified brake fluid out of the pipes with a compressor and lots of solvent!Brake cylinder kits were freely available even in SA so will also be in UK and as for the servo's, mine stood for10 years under the proverbial widows shed and suffered no damage wish I could sneak Sam's CS it past the wife regards Dax ------------- Dax Klynsmith |
Posted By: SFH3L
Date Posted: 14-September-2005 at 15:26
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Well -that got you talking! BTW, the 2800 cs doesn't have the twin servo set up of the 3.0 coupes. As all the cars were made in LHD and converted on arrival to GB (by a man with a bag of hammers and a scraper to remove any underseal that had accidentally been applied by Karmann I can only compare to my csl as far as driving is concerned, and even that isn't fair, as I have the Alpina roll bars, uprated springs and Bilstein shocks on that. No, it isn't as fast, and the brakes did fade if I hammered them, but as an "up to 70% driving" car, it was a lot more relaxing and comfortable. Horses for courses - no pun intended Horsetan. ------------- Sam. the original "not for profit" organisation.
http://www.samleverifa.co.uk - Independent Financial Adviser In Buckingham http://www.samleverifa.blogspot.com - My Financial Blog |
). Instead the car has the one big servo of the LHD cars, with a more complex master cylinder.Posted By: Daxklynsmith
Date Posted: 14-September-2005 at 18:16
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It's also a lot easier to fix something with carbs,no fuel injection and no computer in the pouring rain late at night, Thoroughbread's are fine, if you can stay on them, but the old gray Mare got you to the Pub less than a pint behind , but it got you there ------------- Dax Klynsmith |