Speeding Saga
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Printed Date: 03-May-2024 at 07:48
Topic: Speeding Saga
Posted By: 215m3
Subject: Speeding Saga
Date Posted: 19-October-2005 at 17:41
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I'm not sure if i mentioned this at the time, but i am now. On 18 January i was clocked at 70 in a 50 on the m8 to a720 ediburgh bypass dual carriageway by a mobile camera. I did not get the ticket until 2 months later as it went to the previous owner and the garage.
i went to this site http://pepipoo.com/NewForums2/viewtopic.php?p=77525#77525 - pepipoo and took advice. I waited 28 days and returned the form unsigned. a month later i received it back asking to have it signed. i did not return it. i received another and sent it back unsigned. I was told that they have 6 months to get me to court otherwise the ticket becomes invalid. Details of the time scales Your NIP took substantially longer than 14 days to reach you due to the convoluted nature of the route it took. It's dated 17/3/05, and you had 28 days to respond; taking you to 14/4/05. Add six months to that and you're looking at 14/10/05 to get you into the dock for a pleading diet. This is the comment from one of the forum moderators: - You're off the hook! It's timed-out. Well i have not been summonds and this means i have not be prosecuted. I hope this thread is not the kiss of death but some advice. Just thought i would share this for those who may receive an NIP in the post. I believe you can do the same with tickets handed to you as well. ------------- Toby http://www.bmminiparts.com - New Genuine BMW & Mini OEM parts - www.bmminiparts.com 1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added |
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Posted By: m3Cecotto
Date Posted: 20-October-2005 at 07:26
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Well done Toby, the following sequence of events has happened to me twice. It's disappointing to think that the system appears to fail and some offenders may be getting away with speeding. Somebody passes a camera going a bit too fast. The car in question is registered in wife's name. She gets form asking who was driving. She forgets to reply in time. She gets a reminder and at the last minute says it was me. A few weeks later, I get the same form and forget to reply in time. I get a reminder and don't get round to replying to it. Neither of us hear any more. ------------- 1981 E23 735i 1989 E30 325i Motorsport Cabrio 1989 E24 635CSi Motorsport Edition http://www.bavarianretro.com" rel="nofollow - Bavarian Retro Cars |
Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 20-October-2005 at 08:39
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Howdy boyd not heard from you in ages.
Apparently you have 28 days from date on NIP to reply. they recommend take the full 28 days and rteturtn special delivery unsigned. The 6 months to get one into court starts from the date they get the form back. If you have not heard anything after 6 months then they are unable to get you to court. ------------- Toby http://www.bmminiparts.com - New Genuine BMW & Mini OEM parts - www.bmminiparts.com 1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added |
Posted By: SilverSaloon
Date Posted: 20-October-2005 at 10:17
wow.... i thought that the 'unsigned trick' no longer worked. ------------- 2003 BMW 735i Fully loaded with almost all extras 
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215m3 wrote:Posted By: Nostrils
Date Posted: 20-October-2005 at 10:34
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I wasnt brave enough to go through that route when I got mine and wasnt really sure if it was true! I signed the form and enveloped it all up....only for my rucksack to get stolen off the train...panic set in, but managed to get a new picture licence and it all sent off before the 28 days was over.
Since then I have been lucky not to have received an NIP because I became a sales rep soon after the last incident and I am now doing many more miles....in a Zafira! I dont ever want an NIP again because it destroyed a 22yr clean licence which was still a paper one! and I pay enough taxes as it is. Incidentally, I heard that only a police officer can target you using a mobile or scamera van because sufficient cause or suspicion of speed must identified before being targeted and only a police officer is trained! Anyone else read or heard about this! ------------- Phil |
Posted By: shorty
Date Posted: 20-October-2005 at 14:14
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Not true I'm afraid as i spoke to an "operator" at a car show & he was a "civie " -------------  |
Posted By: Del64
Date Posted: 23-October-2005 at 08:26
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Anyone know if the "When did you last calibrate the equipment" and "can I see the log for it please" questions still work on vascar stops?
------------- 2009 520d SE Business Edition Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. |
Posted By: nero
Date Posted: 23-October-2005 at 09:38
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Del 64 - From a previous thread - hope this answers your question
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Posted By: Del64
Date Posted: 23-October-2005 at 11:58
Ahhhh -----Bu***r!  ------------- 2009 520d SE Business Edition Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 23-October-2005 at 12:19
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Just to clarify the position on Scamera vans, in England & Wales, and pictures showing you using your mobile phone, eating, drinking, sticking two fingers up to the camera etc etc, are passed to the police for processing when downloaded. The police, not the scamera partnership issue the nip, it makes no difference if you were speeding or not, as they are offences in their own right. Most talivans are real time video, so record all the time, a mark is placed on the recording media if you are speeding ( automatically), and by hand by the operator if he spots another offence, he doesn't need to be a qualified police officer, as the picture is the evidence. I hope that helps
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Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 23-October-2005 at 14:38
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Nigel
You mention drinking (soft drinks) and eating. Why then is smoking not fround upon? I think this is more dangerous then eating and drinking. If you drop a cig in a car concentration goes right out the window! ------------- Toby http://www.bmminiparts.com - New Genuine BMW & Mini OEM parts - www.bmminiparts.com 1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added |