Who would be interested in a short break this year to the Isle of Man?

You've read about it in magazines, you've watched it on Top Gear, it has attained legendary status due to its annual TT race, now get to drive it for yourself at your own pace!

3 days on the island gives an ample break from the high-octane action to take in the local scenery and tourist attractions, an island which is steeped in history and has the oldest self-governing parliament in the world.

Any make and model of car welcome.

Interested (Scottish Region):

• stephenperry (e39 alpina b10 3.3)  (CONFIRMED)
• thepits (e30 m3)
• bigian (e34 525i)
• I_MNL (e36 316i)
• m3tiko (e46 m3) (CONFIRMED)
• chris
• immy996turbo (porsche 911 turbo) (CONFIRMED)
• mell + 1
• stevie53 (e39 m5)

No f***ing danger, i have seen your driving on the public roads mr perry, never mind a de-restricted road

Put me down as a maybe....

Count me out of this one

You may find this link handy

http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=21863&KW=isle+of+man - Isle of Man 2006

I'm interested but it depends on dates/cars etc

pete323 wrote: Count me out of this one   You may find this link handy http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=21863&KW=isle+of+man - Isle of Man 2006

don't worry, you made it quite clear you didn't want to go anyway on your post on that thread....

and seeing as I was the one who came up with the idea...

http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=17281&KW=isle+of+man - http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=17281&a mp;KW=isle+of+man

right, first off is ferries.... to give you an idea of prices, sailing from Heysham...

Car + 2 from £63 each way (£126 return)

Available on all services. Journeys must be completed within 5 days.  Day of outward sailing counts as Day 1.  Return sailing must commence on or before day 5.

* £5 premium per car for each single leg sailing commencing Friday, Saturday or Sunday. No weekend supplements will be charged for Belfast & Dublin Services.

** £10 premium per car for each single leg sailing commencing Friday, Saturday or Sunday. No weekend supplements will be charged for Belfast & Dublin Services

Hotels and Guest Accommodation prices are based on bed and breakfast per person per night sharing a twin or double room

Fair enough, travelling from our neck of the woods it is a bit of a trek but you've got dual carriageway and motorway all the way down.  I planned an extra couple of days to split the journey up - personally speaking id travel halfway down on day 1, do the rest of the journey and the ferry on day 2, spend 3 days across on the island, then another 2 days to meander my way back home

m3tiko wrote: i've asked a mate who regularly does work for Hilton chain.... Told him to price for twin and double rooms...just wait and see what he comes up with. I assume that we all would be under the one roof...yeah?? Hence a better rate.

nice one Mr T.   yeah, best all under one roof if it can be arranged

Am in!

When is it for?

Stephen, still have to download the dvd. Will do it tonight and let you know

Cheers

when would people prefer?  i'm flexible because my holiday year is from march to march, and i still have a couple of weeks left to take before march anyway

any week apart except May 28th - June 10th, cos thats TT fortnight

spokey wrote: stephenperry wrote: tourist attractions What????

well you've got to make it more appealing to folk who don't have 100% petrol flowing through their veins dontcha?

great

we've had a preference for March so far, what do the rest of you think of that?

Alternatives welcome, we need something we are all happy with

no problem Ewan, if you're interested can you have a think about any preferences you have for a specific date or time of the year

if there are any dates that interested people definately cannot manage please list them (don't need to give reasons) and we can hopefully work out a time thats suitable for all

stephenperry wrote: when would people prefer?

stephen - I'll leave it up to the majority (or in true democratic style YOU) as it is impossble for me to say when i will be free - except at the moment I know I will(should?!) be busy http://www.teamnetworking.co.uk/scsa-race-dates2006.shtml - http://www.teamnetworking.co.uk/scsa-race-dates2006.shtml  try not to clash with these dates (and the BGP - when ever that is!) - and I'd love to come....

per night....

is that per room or per person?

thepits wrote: http://www.teamnetworking.co.uk/scsa-race-dates2006.shtml - http://www.teamnetworking.co.uk/scsa-race-dates2006.shtml

okay, a process of elimination

i'm going to have to work this out...

stephenperry wrote: thepits wrote: http://www.teamnetworking.co.uk/scsa-race-dates2006.shtml - http://www.teamnetworking.co.uk/scsa-race-dates2006.shtml okay, a process of elimination i'm going to have to work this out...

Good luck! I bet you wish you'd never started this!

thepits wrote: stephenperry wrote: thepits wrote: http://www.teamnetworking.co.uk/scsa-race-dates2006.shtml - http://www.teamnetworking.co.uk/scsa-race-dates2006.shtml okay, a process of elimination i'm going to have to work this out...   Good luck! I bet you wish you'd never started this!

no, not at all.. it makes a refreshing change from IT problem solving 

m3tiko wrote: ok folks got the room rates through as promised. Now i wasn't sure of the exact dates,i picked the 17th March to 20th. Friday to Monday but again tbc Hilton Hotel in Douglas...prices not confirmed !! £69 for twin room and £89 for double incl breakfast and use of leisure facilities. Price also includes entry to the casino on site Added advantage of private car park/garage which is important.

and its in the main town too....

here is the website

http://www.hilton.co.uk/dispatch/ViewPropertyHomePageForm?hid=11001842&ViewPropertyHomePage=&formName=ViewPropertyHomePageForm - http://www.hilton.co.uk/dispatch/ViewPropertyHomePageForm?hi d=11001842&ViewPropertyHomePage=&formName=ViewProper tyHomePageForm

well, what does everyone think?  are you all happy with that or should we look for somewhere cheaper?

stevie53 wrote: tbh I can't confirm to it when it's this early in the year. I would've been looking more sometime in April or May plus better odds for some fairer weather but don't go changing anything on my behalf. I'll just have to wait til nearer the time before commiting to the trip stevie

dont worry Stevie thats why im asking when folk can and can't manage, and when they would prefer so we can all arrive at a final decision

m3tiko wrote: Mr P...you're right in asking if people want to go somewhere cheaper. However, looking at some of the places...i'd rather stick Some remind me of my grannies rooms...and trust me that ain't a pretty site .Sorry gran if you read this...

i'll go through the list of the hotels and guest houses (see previous post) and see if there are alternatives, but i agree that if this is based on per room rather than per person the price aint half bad

nero wrote: stephen  why don't you do a poll with suggested dates and take it from there?

thanks for the suggestion Neil, i'll have to work out the not-possibles beforehand

in fact thinking about it, a simple starter poll would be an...err... start!

http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=25108&PN=1 - http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=25108&a mp;PN=1

gjoconnor92 wrote: That March date is interesting, St. Patrick's day on the 17th. A lot of Irish will have a long weekend. So might also pick up some people from the Irsih Section of the club.

Good idea, thanks :)

Stephen

I won't be able to come, but congratulations on sticking your neck out and organising what should be a fantastic trip. Good Luck.

John

Tiko

this was on a web site :-

4 Star Hilton Hotel & Casino, Douglas, Isle of Man

FREE - Evening Meal Offer 

£119  Dec 2005 & Jan - Mar 2006

The above prices are per person based on two adults sharing a twin/double room and includes return Sea Travel with your CAR ,Two Nights Bed & Breakfast and Free Evening Meal on your first night.

m3tiko wrote: ok folks got the room rates through as promised. Now i wasn't sure of the exact dates,i picked the 17th March to 20th. Friday to Monday but again tbc Hilton Hotel in Douglas...prices not confirmed !! £69 for twin room and £89 for double incl breakfast and use of leisure facilities. Price also includes entry to the casino on site Added advantage of private car park/garage which is important.

Thats a nice hotel

I noticed that you can get it for this price if booked in advance (No refunds)

52.00 per room

claymore_72 wrote: Tiko this was on a web site :- 4 Star Hilton Hotel & Casino, Douglas, Isle of Man FREE - Evening Meal Offer  £119  Dec 2005 & Jan - Mar 2006 The above prices are per person based on two adults sharing a twin/double room and includes return Sea Travel with your CAR ,Two Nights Bed & Breakfast and Free Evening Meal on your first night. To Book Call 08457 585833 (Local Call Rate)

that sounds just the ticket  plus its in conjunction with the ferry company... here is the small print

Booking Conditions

The Holiday Contract. The Inclusive Holiday Contract is with Steam Packet Holidays and commences on receipt of deposit or payment in full. In the event of a telephone booking, a copy of the terms and conditions will be forwarded to you. If you do not accept the terms and conditions, you must advise Steam Packet Holidays in writing within 7 days and you are entitled to a refund of all monies paid.
2. Protection. Steam Packet Holidays is a member of the Passenger Shipping Association and its Consumer Protection Scheme and bonded accordingly. This ensures the protection of your monies once paid and covers the cost of repatriation to the U.K. mainland. The Passenger Shipping Association is Government approved under the Package Travel, Package Holidays and Tours Regulations 1992.
3. Holiday Payment. At the time of booking, please send a deposit of £40/€60 per adult and £20/€30 per child. The balance is payable 6 weeks before your holiday commences. If the booking is made within 6 weeks of your departure date, the full cost of the holiday must be paid at the time of booking.
4. Alterations made by you. If you wish to change any of the details of your holiday after we have sent the confirmation, you may be liable to a charge of £15/€20 per booking to cover any administration costs incurred.
5. Cancellations. Should you cancel your holiday, a cancellation fee is payable. The fee is calculated from the table below. A cancellation is regarded as valid only if stated in writing to Steam Packet Holidays. The lead name of the booking must also sign the written cancellation.

Please note: Refunds will not be made unless travel tickets and documents are returned to Steam Packet Holidays.

Period before scheduled departure within which         & nbsp;        Amount of cancellation charge (expressed as a % of
written notification is received by Steam Packet Holidays.  total holiday price, excluding insurance premium)
More than 42 days         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;          Deposit
29 - 42 days         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;                    30%
15 - 28 days         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;                    45%
1 - 14 days         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;                      60%
On or after departure        &nb sp;         &nb sp;         &nb sp;         &nb sp;         &nb sp;         &nb sp;       100%

6. Cancellations or changes to your holiday made by us.
a) Within our control. In the unlikely event that we cancel or make major changes to your confirmed holiday, we will offer you an alternative. If we are unable to offer you an acceptable alternative holiday you may cancel completely and we will refund all payments already made.
b) Beyond our control. Should we be forced to cancel your confirmed holiday, or make major changes to it, as the result of industrial action, natural disaster, inclement weather, transport technical problems, port closures, civil disturbance, riot, terrorist activity, governmental action, threat of war or any other situations beyond our control, we would of course, offer you an alternative holiday at the normal cost, or give you a full refund.
What is meant by ‘major’ changes. A major change is one that involves an alteration to the time of departure or return by more than 12 hours, a change of departure port, or a change of hotel to one of a lower standard.
Minor alterations. Should we have to make small changes to your holiday details you or your Travel Agent will be notified at the earliest opportunity.
7. Travel delays. In the event of a delay to your departure by sea, Steam Packet Holidays will assist as much as possible. Should your delay be greater than 12 hours, Steam Packet Holidays. will pay £20/€30 for the first full 12 hours that a client is delayed, and £10/€15 for each 12 hours thereafter, up to a maximum of £60/€90 per person. This compensation will be paid provided you do not have any insurance cover offering the same or similar compensation scheme. This action will only be undertaken provided the delay has been caused by a direct result of strike, industrial action, adverse weather conditions or mechanical breakdown of sea vessel.
8. Prive Guarantee. The price of your travel arrangements is subject to surcharges on the following items for increases in: transportation costs e.g. fuel, action such as increases in VAT or any other Government imposed increases.
Even in this case, we will absorb an amount equivalent to 2% of the holiday price which excludes
insurance premiums and any amendment charges. Only amounts in excess of this 2% will be surcharged but where a surcharge is payable there will be an administration charge of 50p together with an amount to cover agents’ commission. If this means paying more than 10% on the holiday price, you will be entitled to cancel your holiday with a full refund of all money paid except for any premium paid to us for holiday insurance and amendment charges. Should you decide to cancel because of this, you must exercise your right to do so within 14 days from the issue date printed on the invoice. Steam Packet Holidays. reserves the right to amend its published prices, including those published in this brochure.
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10. Our responsibility to you. We accept responsibility for the acts and omissions of our employees and agents and for those of our suppliers. We also accept responsibility if any service which we are obliged to provide by our contract with you proves not to be of reasonable standard. In cases where Steam Packet Holidays. is liable for failure to perform or improper performance of the services involved in the holiday package, such liability should be limited in accordance with the Athens Convention of 1974 on Carriage by Sea, the Berne Convention of 1961 on Carriage by Rail and the Paris Convention of 1962 on the Liability of Hotelkeepers; whereas, moreover, with regard to damage other than personal injury, Steam Packet Holidays contract limits liability to twice the value of the holiday.
11. Conditions of carriage. When travelling with a carrier, the Conditions of Carriage of that carrier will apply, some of which may exclude or limit liability. The conditions applying to your journey are available for inspection at the offices of Steam Packet Holidays.

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3. Dogs. For the benefit of all passengers, it is preferred that dogs travel in vehicles on the well-ventilated car decks. No charge is made in this case, or for Guide Dogs accompanied by their owners. A fare of £10/€15 will apply to any other dog taken in to permitted passenger areas on board the ship, but please note that dogs are not allowed in to passenger areas on board SeaCat Fast Ferries. Please call for further information.

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spokey wrote: Pete323, I think you might need to edit your post ...

Yip

Copy and paste

so what`s the latest on this trip then?

Do you have a date in mind so we can get it on the events guide?

stephenperry wrote: nothing finalised yet and no further information, waiting for everything to get back to normal after christmas and new year festivities, but looking at some time at the end of march

Yoo-Hoo Stephen!!

All the festivities are over - it's back to work time

What news? My Racing-Calendar is filling up fast!!

thepits wrote: it's back to work time

speak for yourself, i'm not back until Wednesday

the plan is to provide you all the information, then you book the tickets yourselves, then just let me know when you've done it so i can mark you down as definate.

stephenperry wrote: speak for yourself, i'm not back until Wednesday

stephenperry wrote:   the plan is to provide you all the information, then you book the tickets yourselves, then just let me know when you've done it

and what 'window in our diary' are we considering oh great one?

thepits wrote: lucky  - mind you, I had the week off b4 Christmas, so can't complain!

me too

thepits wrote: sounds fine to me. travel & hotel booking recommendations, and then down to us?

yep, it's easier that way - besides, i don't think my credit card limit goes high enough for me to book all the tickets myself!!

thepits wrote: and what 'window in our diary' are we considering oh great one?

lets say week commencing 20th march for arguments sake

stephenperry wrote: lets say week commencing 20th march for arguments sake

Sounds fine to me - at the moment my "season" isn't starting until Easter (Brrrr!)

The price of this trip (ferry & accommodation on the island) will be £119 per person departing Heysham on 20th March and returning 23rd

Please list your name if you are still interested as the viability of this trip will depend on numbers

stephenperry wrote: The price of this trip (ferry & accommodation on the island) will be £119 per person departing Heysham on 20th March and returning 23rd Please list your name if you are still interested

Count me in!  

stephenperry wrote: The price of this trip (ferry & accommodation on the island) will be £119 per person departing Heysham on 20th March and returning 23rd

Now that is cheap!  Would love to come along but I'll be going to the Ring the week after this and I don't think I can afford the tyres.

Hope you all have a great trip.

Yeap Am in!

Unless if work circumstances force a last minute change...there's no prob at the mo

So have you got an idea what you are doing yet?

Someone has been asking me about this trip (They don`t have access to forum)

sightseeing and lapping the island until we are dizzy.... that should cover it

like i said its dependent on numbers, and at the moment it doesn't look like it's going ahead due to lack of committed interest

stephenperry wrote: at the moment it doesn't look like it's going ahead due to lack of committed interest

Shock horror,another great idea falls at the first hurdle

You have a few defo`s to get it booked?

not enough definates to make it worthwhile i'm afraid - this is the kind of trip best done mob-handed

not to worry, looks like it'll be the nurburgring for definate this year then

is it cheaper if more than 4 go?

atleast if there are only a few going it`s less orginizing

no.... prices based on up to two people sharing a room

they'd all be seperate bookings anyway done by the folk going

im still waiting to see if l have my licence,if i do i think i will be coming + 1

right, whos going to be first to book?

4 Star Hilton Hotel & Casino, Douglas, Isle of Man

FREE - Evening Meal Offer 

£119  January - March 2006

The above prices are per person based on two adults sharing a twin/double room and includes return Sea Travel with your CAR ,Two Nights Bed & Breakfast and Free Evening Meal on your first night.

http://www.steampacketholidays.com/ - http://www.steampacketholidays.com/

THIS IS NON-REFUNDABLE !!!

would it not be best for you to find out exactly who is going by say the end of month

get everyones money and call then to make sure you can all get same deal?

Only advising since i have organized things before and no how hard it is

okay, how about those who want to go post a cheque to me for the above amount (£119) and ill handle the booking side of things?

please pm me for my postal address

stephenperry wrote: okay, how about those who want to go post a cheque to me for the above amount (£119) and ill handle the booking side of things?

That the best way mate

great, when you've got the cheques off them then pm me for my address

i won't cash them until i've got them all and confirmed availability - any problems and i'll post them back to you all

A major spanner in the works...

Received the following email today from Geoff Woods, Alpina owner and a local to the island: