Do i need 5mm spacers on the front??
Printed From: Bavarian-Board.co.uk - BMW Owners Discussion Forum
Category: Technical & Model Specific Forums
Forum Name: BMW ///M Power
Forum Discription: Ask your BMW M Power Technical Questions here (M1, M2 hybrids, M3, M5 & M6)
URL: http://www.bavarian-board.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=25285
Printed Date: 06-May-2024 at 10:55
Topic: Do i need 5mm spacers on the front??
Posted By: Newbsta1
Subject: Do i need 5mm spacers on the front??
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 09:51
|
I am collecting my new wheels tonight, ....Thank you very much Jim M3,....I am very excited.......... but i have a query, I have heard some fit normally, and some need 5mm spacers. My car is a Late 90 early 91 model.....Will they Fit, or should i get the spacers???? I hear some of you have the same wheels, so your advise would be appreciated. Thanks ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Replies:
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:03
|
What ET are they, if they are the same as mine ET20 then with new Brake pads you need at least 5mm spacers, try to get them with hubcentric rings attached ? if needed that is ? bore size ? regards |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:08
|
Thanks for replying They are from an E39 540i 97/98 BBS Split rim RC090 5 x 120 PCD with an offset of ET20. The current pads are not new but not old? You mentioned Bore size?? sorry, i am still learning could they fir for now, and when replace brakes pads, then get the spacers?? ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:16
|
The centre bore size of these wheels is larger than the M3 hub so you will need hubcentric rings anyway, you are best to get them fitted to the spacer as one. Try wheels uk i think they are in coventry ? http://www.wheels.uk.com - www.wheels.uk.com The reason for the pad question was if you have a newish pad the caliper rattle clip etc hits on the iner spokes of the wheel hence the spacer will be needed get 4 spacers and do the rear so as to keep the track width the same front to back, no problems with turn in when/if on track ? regards |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:29
|
....Sorry, I am getting 4 x Spiggot ?? (I think that was close :-) rings with the wheels..... when ready to change the pads, i will go for the all in one rings you mentioned from Wheels UK.... Really appreciate your help here.... thank you ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:32
|
The front wheels will not fit without spacers even with half worn pads ?? i stand corrected but i have these exact wheels fitted. they are just worse with new pads hence the question. |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:34
|
would it be best that i just buy 4 x spacers straight aweay?? or just 2 x ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:34
|
7mm spacer fitted http://photobucket.com/albums/c258/trackm3/?action=view¤t=Picture098.jpg - http://photobucket.com/albums/c258/trackm3/?action=view& current=Picture098.jpg regards |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:35
| You can buy 2 but the handling will change, not as responsive, turn in. |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:38
|
4 it is....I am on to Eibach as we speak.... They have them in stock for delivery tomorrow :-) once again...thanks for your help (Slightly gutted as have a long business trip i need to take and wanted to take the M3 as it has been in the garage for 7 weeks.... :-( ) but i can wait one more day Nic ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:42
|
remember to get longer bolts regards |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:43
|
good call........
------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:45
|
Can you remeber off the top of your head what size?? ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:47
| 72.6>74.0 120X5 |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:50
|
ok, eibach either do 5mm or 8mm spacers ??? which would you go for, or should i try wheels uk?? and if i quoted those bolt lengths to BMW they will know wha i am talking about....?
------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:53
|
Lots of companies do longer bolts Demon Tweeks etc, Main dealers will only do std length bolts 5mm spacers were fine on mine, i just use 7mm so they will also fit my track wheels regards Martin |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:56
|
Martin......Again, Thank you very much. Nic ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 10:59
|
Whjy don't you just take the clip off till pads are worn down a little bit and forget about that spacer business????? ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 11:02
| Tried that they still don't fit,(HITS THE WHOLE CALIPER BODY) spacers are needed, unless anyone else has overcome it ? |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 11:05
|
Are the wheels bolts tapered or radius seating ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 11:22
| Taper seat, i think ? |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 11:29
buy the correct wheels 
Centre bore doesn't fit AND no spoke clearance. I am sure it can be done better. If you work the money out for the spacers and the longer wheel bolts, are you sure it still was a bargain? ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
trackM3 wrote:Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 11:32
|
For me at £300 the set it was worth it won't pay the silly prices the M3 Ones sell for on Ebay £800-£1000 and all just to spin into the gravel at paddock hill bend |
Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 11:55
These were mine on my old M3 and they were from an 8 series and bolted straight on no hubcentric issue or clip issue
 ------------- Toby http://www.bmminiparts.com - New Genuine BMW & Mini OEM parts - www.bmminiparts.com 1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 11:58
|
I think 8 Series rims 8 X 17 are ET 10 so would be fine e39 five series are ET20 ? regards |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 12:01
|
I have 2 x sets......... 16" Orig for tracking, and the slightly deeper dish for steady road driving....... Its all fun learning all this, but the wallet does not like it, but i have stopped listening to it moaning and keep on buying myself xmas pressies..........all year round Thanks for all your comments and Merry Xmas Nic (i will tell you all about the further traumers tomorrow) ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |
Posted By: Simon325i sport
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 14:01
|
Phew..I'm glad you posted that....all these posts about centering rings and spacers had me worrying...I've got the E31 wheels and none of the above either!! ------------- 
|
Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 20-December-2005 at 17:09
I was looking through the old pics of the girl and miss her after seeing them again. ------------- Toby http://www.bmminiparts.com - New Genuine BMW & Mini OEM parts - www.bmminiparts.com 1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added |
Posted By: Newbsta1
Date Posted: 23-December-2005 at 07:47
|
Thanks everyone for the comments and help...... I thought when i got the wheels i would see if they fit.....and without spacers or longer bolts the wheels went on without a problem and there is loads of clearence between the Brake calipers and the wheel......... I will post pics as the car looks bloody awesome. Just need it to stop raining in Manchester so i can have a nice sunny pic so the wheels glisten. Thanks again Nic ------------- Black E30 M3 1990 |