Ring trip.
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Topic: Ring trip.
Posted By: coates
Subject: Ring trip.
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 15:44
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Gents, A bit early but does anyone know if dates have been printed for 2006? and is the easter weekend (14-17 apr this year) always a standard public open weekend? any info appreciated. ------------- E30 M3 1990. GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
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Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 16:05
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Curious. The offical Nuerburgring web site shows opening dates for this month (it was due to be open today but ther's snow on the ground ) but nothing for later in the year. The Easter weekend is a given anyway.The dates normally go online at the end of Jan.
Check out the new webcam for the entry point on to the track. http://www.nuerburgring.de - Official Ring site |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 16:11
I have Easter already booked in my personal diary 
Let's open a list: Uwe E30 M3 BMG E30 M3 ??? ??? ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 16:14
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I'm planning to go, along with Steve, Kev and some of his pals. ------------- Toby http://www.bmminiparts.com - New Genuine BMW & Mini OEM parts - www.bmminiparts.com 1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added |
Posted By: coates
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 16:24
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heard that the easter weekend is busy, a bit of a petrolhead fest!? ------------- E30 M3 1990. GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 16:33
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i plan to go the very same weekend (easter) ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 16:36
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love to play ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
UweM3 wrote:
- but at the moment I'm at Rockingham Motor Speedway playing with SCSA at Easter .... 
Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 16:42
Might be there.Won't be in an E30 M3 though.... 
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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 16:45
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Sadly our trip will have to be later in the year, Will make a decision once the full years schedule has been published. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Alan F
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 18:47
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I am deffo going back this year, not Easter though, is there another S14.de meet on the cards? Here are 2006 prices:
Looks like number of laps per ticket has changed for 2006, also now no mention of any ticket having to be used on day of purchase, as was the case with 1 & 5 lap tickets previously. Single tickets Nordschleife 2006 Fee per car / motorcycle and round 16.00 € (only available on site!) Bus - Adults per Person 2.00 € Bus - children per Person 1.00 € Lap fees 2006 25-lap ticket car / motorcycle 305.00 € 15-lap ticket car / motorcycle 195.00 € 8-lap ticket car / motorcycle 108.00 € 4-lap ticket car / motorcycle 56.00 € Tickets valid for one year 2006 Car or motorcycle 798.00 € 
Eschbach 1938 German Grand Prix Alan |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 02-January-2006 at 19:16
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how much was it for a 6 lap ticket last year, 80 euro? ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: Dazzieboy
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 05:25
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anyone know if the S14 meet will be in its usual June slot? ------------- The Future's The Past |
Posted By: texas2201
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 06:21
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Aiming to go over at easter - some b***T**s stole the trailer - have them on video with petrol driven road cutters to get the security locking devices off and when they drove off they damaged another car....... so i might have to drive it there Cannot wait though as Alpha N, Sports Filter and Innovate now fitted - difference is astounding - still needs fine tuning though
Martin ------------- Martin - www.iconicmotorcars.co.uk E30 M3 now sold :-(/Lotus Elan SE Turbo/Lotus Excel SE/Lotus Excel SA/Audi A8 - now Tow Barge - Quattro 4.2 |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 06:25
Are you playing or do you WATCH they others playing? ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 06:34
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will be heading back in May myself - probably midweek too as the queues and amount of people on track last September were outrageous.
have got the bug now! ------------- |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 07:19
Brian, Kevin, I am happy to go at another weekend. Any suggestions? I have to say I am not very keen on queing up either... ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 07:26
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Uwe
Back in September the queues to get off the track were around 1/2 mile long and 2 cars abreast! Kevin can confirm that as well. ------------- |
Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 12:41
One of the guys took this pic from last year.Captures nicely what part of a Ring trip is about :)
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Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 12:46
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Brands Hatch is nice to ???????????????? plenty of parking there as well??????? Regards Martin |
Posted By: M3DTM
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 13:04
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As I was there as well I can only say this is true. Apart from that however, I think it is also getting seriously dangerous on weekends and many accidents happen nowadays. I would love to join up with my M3, but I would prefer on weekdays, say Thursday or Friday instead of weekend. Kevin told me this was also done this last meeting in 2005. John PS. Maybe we can keep everyone informed by updating this topic. ------------- A properly sorted E30 M3 is still 'King of the Ring' |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 15:19
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Martin, Sorry to hear about the trailer and I hope you can get the insurance sorted quickly. Cheers ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 03-January-2006 at 15:21
Hi John - it was mad that weekend alright - only got in 3 laps myself - 2 on Friday and 1 on Saturday. Your right - my next trip will be midweek leading in Thursday and Friday - hopefully get more track time then. ------------- |
Posted By: Pooky
Date Posted: 04-January-2006 at 06:35
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The industry pool will be running for the 4 weeks before Easter (from 20th March) so weekday track use will be very limited. There is a four week break in the industry pool after Easter and then it runs only for one week in May (week beginning 15th) and then not again until June (week beginning 19th). ------------- 
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Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:10
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has anyone been before during the easter weekend? how was the traffic. i hope to get a good few laps in without massive queues. ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:14
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Few of the Irish lads went last year and I think it was snowing! ------------- |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 04-January-2006 at 10:06
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pretend i didnt read that! ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 04-January-2006 at 10:39
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Easter is quite late this year. ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 04-January-2006 at 12:14
| Last Easter was ok. There was snow on the ground with just 2 weeks to go, but it was all gone by the Easter weekend and business was quiet next to some of the summer weekends later in the year. |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 04-January-2006 at 15:18
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The run up to Easter last year was nerve racking with the weather but
it turned out to be a great weekend. The snow cleared with just enough
time for them to resurface quite a few sections of track. Brian, I forgot to ask, what are you doing to you M3 that means you will not have whatever you are doing to it completed by Easter? ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 04-January-2006 at 15:38
I've taken it off the road to try and sort some of the rust which is creeping in all over the car now.I also want to remove all the suspension,fuel tanks,fuel and brake lines,exhaust, diff, prop, gearbox,engine and everything in the engine bay and remove the front wings,bumpers, bonnet,front panel,lights etc etc. A new scuttle panel is needed and a few rust repairs in the engine bay need to be looked at.I'll also maybe a new back panel and some work on one sill.Oh, and the roof needs a repaint along with the underside of the car and then apply some underseal before fitting it all back up. I haven't started doing any of this yet,and I still have 2 sets of BBS RS's to finish , plus I just bought a complete '215 bhp' engine to rob for bits. Then I have to strip my old engine that blew a piston a couple of years ago and sort everything out that I want to keep and then sell on what I don't want,before I have enough room to start pulling the M3 apart. |
Posted By: rr_ww
Date Posted: 04-January-2006 at 15:48
Never been. But you'll find a lot of the UK car forums/clubs go that weekend. Same with the Autumn bank holiday weekend. ------------- Rich. 
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Posted By: texas2201
Date Posted: 05-January-2006 at 05:50
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Theft of Trailer Thanks Kevin I hope they sort it out soon Where are you off to - that you cant make the ring at Easter?
Martin ------------- Martin - www.iconicmotorcars.co.uk E30 M3 now sold :-(/Lotus Elan SE Turbo/Lotus Excel SE/Lotus Excel SA/Audi A8 - now Tow Barge - Quattro 4.2 |
Posted By: b7 eater
Date Posted: 05-January-2006 at 08:04
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Hoping to make easter, Sorry about the trailer Martin, will you be there in August ?
Mark. P.s got a new toy!! ------------- E21 323i baur E34 M5 M3 GT |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 05-January-2006 at 15:45
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@ Martin, We will be in Australia on holiday, it's just a bit too far
away. Might see if I can get a couple of laps around Mount Panorama
(the Bathurst circuit) as I beleive it is open to the public just like
the NS. @ Mark, What's the new toy & hope you still have the M5? ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: texas2201
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 07:52
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I have booked the august trip - just got to sort out the ferry will travel over on the saturday get some laps on the sunday and then do the course. hopefully with a new trailer! what is the new toy Mark? M3 csl? Enjoy Australia Kevin - how long are you going for? Any chance we could get together for some fine tuning on the Alpha N? Martin
------------- Martin - www.iconicmotorcars.co.uk E30 M3 now sold :-(/Lotus Elan SE Turbo/Lotus Excel SE/Lotus Excel SA/Audi A8 - now Tow Barge - Quattro 4.2 |
Posted By: grant w
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 08:34
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Kevin
Bathurst is a public road when not used for race days , and is subject to the normal speed limits , so you will be stopped and fined if caught speeding , planned to go there last year but the tail end of the cyclone put paid to that.. ------------- 
www.redevom3.co.uk 1989 e30 m3 2.5 1996 e36 m3 evo , sold 2002 e46 m3 smg . 1991 Daihatsu 2.8 TD Work Horse Rust Never Sleeps . Tattooed Lady - Bearded Baby - there my family .. |
Posted By: ultegra
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 09:02
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Is it possible to be the harbinger of anything else apart from doom?
another driver joins the "...and a half" laps club.
------------- http://members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/chrisenright - Chris Enright M Coupe Silver ex M Coupe Black ex 318is Silver 318is White ex M3 GT ex 318is Red ex 318is Blue 316i shell - watch this space... 
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Posted By: coates
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 11:00
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Nightmare!! ------------- E30 M3 1990. GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
Posted By: David321
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 11:30
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That's enough to make you cry. I'm planning my 2nd ever trip to the 'Ring this year, pictures like that are a sad but welcome reminder to take things steady. How many of you guys ever use track day insurance when you go? I didn't bother the first time, but saw plenty of carnage which has made me wonder whether to get it next time. ------------- E36 M3 Evo - Techno Violet Previous & current rides... 
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Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 11:39
In case you are not aware the 'Ring is NOT a track, it is a public toll road. As such all cars need to have valid insurance to be driven on it (i.e. your current insurance that covers on the road), take note hear as quite a number of insurance companies now have a clause hiden away that states you are not covered on "unrestricted toll roads" and hence you will not be covered. If you had an accident on the 'Ring you would be in big trouble with the German Police, when they come and inspect the scene and want to see your documents. |
Posted By: Alan F
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 12:39
A trip to the Holy Land is a must for all BMW owners 
Alan |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 13:01
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Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 16:25
Only a NON ringer will ask this...... Although I am not a real fan of the Ring I have to admit it is a MUST to have done at least a passenger lap! Nothing compares to it. Go and get converted ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 18:04
With John! ------------- Toby http://www.bmminiparts.com - New Genuine BMW & Mini OEM parts - www.bmminiparts.com 1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 06-January-2006 at 18:54
Or come with me. As I am not fully know the Ring I can promise some entertainment as well ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 07-January-2006 at 04:25
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Done about 10 laps, can't see what it's all about (with you on that) also been round as passenger with john Nielsen , if thats any good. |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 07-January-2006 at 06:07
C'mon, don't be so emotionless  .
Don't you agree that the Ring is something special? (keep in mind it's me saying that. Most of the guy's here know that I don't like the Ring...) ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: trackM3
Date Posted: 07-January-2006 at 06:25
I can see what you mean, it is good, but for me a good open pit lane track day in the UK, just seems much better value and less grief, more track time to set the car up ? MAYBE IT'S JUST ME . |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 07-January-2006 at 06:47
Fully agree with you. I totally exclude the Ring as a track day (which in reality it isn't a track day anyway), was just talking about the Ring as unique Place. Personally I don't use the Ring as the place I want to push myself and the car to the limit, it's just for fun and a good place to meet all kind of people, cars and bikes. And of course the food in the Pistenklause...... ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 07-January-2006 at 21:50
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over the last few days i have been booking the various requirements of my trip to the ring. it seems i will be driving for long periods of time followed by extended drinking sessions and cracking on to local bints. if its got to be done.......... ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: coates
Date Posted: 08-January-2006 at 08:15
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trackpig, well it seems as though you have everything covered....? ------------- E30 M3 1990. GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 08-January-2006 at 09:55
have to say I dont rate that place. Ate there 2 nights - food was cold, under cooked and service was crap! maybe i got them at a bad time! ------------- |
Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 08-January-2006 at 11:24
you must have. I have been there many times and it was always spot on. ------------- E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg..... |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 08-January-2006 at 12:55
This is very, very tentative until Nurburgring GmbH decide to publish the schedule but we have in mind a visit from 20 May thru 29 May as this would give us clearer lapping during the week as well as time over the weekends to socialise and to odd lap(s) if it isn't too busy. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: coates
Date Posted: 29-January-2006 at 17:25
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we've been finalising details of our trip to the ring, its my first time.....(ring virgin)
------------- E30 M3 1990. GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
....i'm trying to decide what spares to take on my 1500 mile journey, any thoughts/experiences??????? 
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 29-January-2006 at 17:32
heres a short list of what I brought - spare fuses, relays, oil, water, fan belt, pads, brake fluid and a few tools! im sure others will recommend more ------------- |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 30-January-2006 at 03:16
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set of spare front pads, sparco race gloves, 8 cans of larger. for the return trip i would recommend around 3000 tabs. ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: Simon325i sport
Date Posted: 30-January-2006 at 05:25
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Dates are up just in case you guys hadn't noticed.. I want to go this year, are we going to arrange a couple of us to go? I want to follow someone else! ------------- 
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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 30-January-2006 at 13:26
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Simon, Where are you looking? I can only see times until the end of April, and then when viewed in German... ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 30-January-2006 at 13:50
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I posted the link a couple of days ago.
Who's going and on what dates, I think easter will be busy.... |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 30-January-2006 at 13:58
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Dave, I had seen that. It's a very good graphical representation of the
offical dates/times from nuerburgring.de but doesn't go past the end of
April
------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Simon325i sport
Date Posted: 30-January-2006 at 14:37
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Sorry, that's the dates I meant..! http://www.nuerburgring.de/index.php?id=106&month=4 - http://www.nuerburgring.de/index.php?id=106&month=4 -------------
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Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 08:38
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right its all booked, ferry from dover thursday 13th 21.00 april to dunkerque arriving at 23.59 french time. staying in the luxurious dunkerque formule 1 at the sweet price of 28 euros per room. an early start with a hangover on friday morning for the blast to the ring and hopefully arrive at nurburg just after lunch (mc d's), for checking in to the zur burg hotel. the ring is open till 19.30 so theres a nice amount of time to bust some lap times! not sure whats going on on the evenings but a few pints could be in order. all day saturday at the ring. all night drinking pints. possibly a few laps on sunday a.m then back to catch the ferry at 16.45 french time. arrival at dover at 19.45. drive to ashford for de brief, pints and nightclubing. drive back home monday.
although ive been to the nurburgring before, ive never been at easter. whats going on around this time of year on a night (is there a beer fesitval or something?). cars in group: e30 325 sport, e30 m3 and a rental!! anyone else travelling over there that weekend? ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: Pooky
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 09:51
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There's a big gathering of http://www.e36coupe.com - e36coupe.com at the ring that weekend. You have been warned. -------------
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Posted By: coates
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 10:43
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eeerrrrr why??? ------------- E30 M3 1990. GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 10:45
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"whats going on at easter"???? everybody and his granny will be there, huge
queues, loads of waiting, masses of bikes throwing themselves into the armco... Though the full GP circuit was open last year as well I think, wonder if they will do that this easter, ummmmmmm I think I might wait, see when they release more dates. |
Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 13:29
The past 3 Easter weekends I've been to, haven't been that bad. The summer full weekends have always been much worse than any of the Easter weekends. Also factor in that the Ring is open 4 full days at Easter, so you don't have to pack in as many laps in a short time, unlike a 2 day weekend opening, and any track closed time isn't such a large chunk of time when you have 4 days to play. |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 15:44
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warned, why, are they all Brokeback Mountain fans? ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: Pooky
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 16:22
No, just going to be really busy and full of hungover e36 owners getting on your nerves... -------------
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Posted By: coates
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 16:56
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i am expecting it to be a busy weekend but i'm not going over there to do s**t loads of laps, probably 20 or so over fri sat and maybe squeeze a couple in on sunday morning. i know a couple of e30 owners (probably with hangovers)who could get on their nerves.....
------------- E30 M3 1990. GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 16:57
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Thats all we need, a bunch of e36 owners getting on
our nerves... 
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Posted By: coates
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 17:01
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does that mean you've changed you're mind on dates?? ------------- E30 M3 1990. GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
Posted By: SHEPSM3
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 17:03
And with "hang overs"!  ------------- [IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/ShepsM3/New-1a1.jpg">[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/ShepsM3/New-1b1.jpg"> |
Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 01-February-2006 at 05:36
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Maybe................
Has anybody booked up accomdation yet? |
Posted By: coates
Date Posted: 01-February-2006 at 07:41
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yes, staying in the zur burg. ------------- E30 M3 1990. GSXR 750(K1)TRACK WEAPON. |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 12-April-2006 at 12:38
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can anyone recommend any spectator points at the ring. is one of the main ones at brunnchen? can any one give quick directions either from the main car park (where the ring taxis point is) or the other entry exit car park at breidscheid/ exmuhle any other top viewing spots? ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 12-April-2006 at 12:45
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the viewing point in adenau is very popualr - plenty of action there!! ------------- |
Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 12-April-2006 at 12:51
| http://s8.invisionfree.com/Northloop/index.php?showtopic=137 - Click me |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 12-April-2006 at 12:55
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not working ------------- |
Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 12-April-2006 at 13:04
| huh. works fine for me.... |
Posted By: jackie325is
Date Posted: 12-April-2006 at 16:50
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would like to know if anyone knows of any places where a gentleman can aquire a lady of the night in or around nurburg! im fancying doing the ring if you know what i mean!! ------------- life is a waste of time,time is a waste of life,so get wasted most of the time and have the time of your life!(the worm rocks) |