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e39 cold surging and airbag light.

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Topic: e39 cold surging and airbag light.
Posted By: whitey
Subject: e39 cold surging and airbag light.
Date Posted: 18-January-2006 at 15:08

1st problem! my 523 (M52TU) has a problem when the engine is stone cold. It surges on very slight throttle. At idle it's rock steady and if I nail it, it revs through cleanly.

The easiest way to describe it is if I start it up and move it a short distance slowly. It will surge, making the car kangaroo slightly. If I drive it normally it's fine. Leave it ticking over for 2-3 mins and it'll be fine, problem disappears. Drive it to the end of the road, problem gone.  

I can live with it but a) it would be nice to fix it and b) I want to sell it so I want the car to be right when it goes.

2nd problem!! The airbag light is on constantly. When I start the car it goes out for under a second then comes back on with a click of a relay. Anyone know what it is.

Cars a 2000 "W" 523i auto

Thanks in advance.

Trevor



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2000 e39 523i with full factory sport kit.
1989 e30 325i Convertible
1999 Golf GTI 1.8T



Replies:
Posted By: jamie (e39)528i
Date Posted: 18-January-2006 at 15:15

Hi whitey my turn to help you out now!

The airbag light can be one of two thing's either the seat belt pretensioner is faulty,or maybe it could be the passenger occupancy mat that is faulty.

This happened to me and was the mat in the seat that was faulty!!

It cost £150. at my local specialist,a bit cheaper if you have cloth seats!

Hope that helps



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Posted By: jamie (e39)528i
Date Posted: 18-January-2006 at 15:18

Forgot to say that if you take your car to somewhere where they have a diagnostic system they will be able to tell you exactly what is wrong.

I do not think either can be done DIY as you need the light reset by a diagnostic system.



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Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 18-January-2006 at 15:19

i had the kangarooing problem on my e46, exactly as you describe

i fitted a new set of spark plugs (Bosch Super 4's iirc) and it never returned



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    2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto

    1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
    2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
    1999 BMW 323Ci
    1995 BMW 318i SE
    1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
    1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
    1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
    1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
    1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly


Posted By: jamie (e39)528i
Date Posted: 18-January-2006 at 15:23

Oops sorry just thought about your other problem,could just be the car has a built in safety feature in that when you start the car it goes into sport mode for the 1st couple of minutes i think to warm the car quicker?

In the cold weather you normally warm the car for a few mins so dont notice it so much.

Both the e39 and the e34 i had did the same.

 



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Posted By: whitey
Date Posted: 18-January-2006 at 15:24

Blimey.......that worked!!

I figured the air bag light was something like that but wanted opinions before I booked it in. I'd guessed it was a dealer job.

The plugs actually make sense and i hadn't thought of those. It did have a a set (alledgedly) on it's last Insp 2 and started doing it very soon after. I've done about 16k since then and I've lived with it. I suppose it could be a fauly plug at low temp. It wouldn't take much to get some heat into it.

Thanks (anymore welcome.)

 



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2000 e39 523i with full factory sport kit.
1989 e30 325i Convertible
1999 Golf GTI 1.8T


Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 19-January-2006 at 08:09

Trevor

My Vauxhall Senator 3.0i 24 V auto surged when cold.

1 No. new lambda sensor cured it. 2 No. required on my M52 523i, not sure about the M52 TU blocks.

The car wont be in sport mode when cold, more likely will hang on to first gear for longer than normal when cold.  Most autos do this until engine warms up a bit. 

Did your airbag light come on after moving the drivers seat back or forth?  Chances are that the weak electrical connector under the drivers seat for the seat belt pre tensioner system has come loose and caused the fault light.  This was exactly the case on my E39.  My fiancé moved the car so had to move the drivers seat and next time on ignition start - airbag warning light caused by the seat belt pre tensioner wiring connector working loose.  This requires, as Jamie correctly identified, a diagnostic machine to reset once the fault has been cured.  Very common problem on E39s!  Some garages will charge a hours labour costs to diagnose and reset any such faults so be warned what only takes 20 mins will cost as much as 60 mins as they charge you for the use of the diagnostic machine!

HTH

Andrew



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