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Topic: Porsche? Need opinion...
Posted By: Kin Mak
Subject: Porsche? Need opinion...
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:05
Owner of this car just emailed me to ask if I wanted to swap.

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=305598 - http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=305598

Classic insurance, smaller more fun car as I wanted, a bit old for my liking. Was going to go for a 993 or even a 996. What do you guys think.

I just had 3 friends in my car in the weekend driving them into town. For obviously put the foot down, hey had so much fun 2 of them asked me how much do I want for it. Can't do that in the Porsche tho. Decisions.

p.s. Also it means I can't hang with you guys no more.


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Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:13

Of course you can hang out with us!

High enough miles. Age in a Porsche wouldn't bother me, as long as it has been looked after. I'd try for a 993 C2 if possible - so much more sorted in lots of respects. That one is an absolute honey though! I'd be tempted if I were you...



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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
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Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:15

Kin

The Porsche looks like a nice car but if he is looking for a straight swap or anything close then imho you'd be mad to take it.  A Porsche like that should be a second or third car only.  Rack up an average sort of mileage on it and the bills will mount pretty quickly and the value will drop accordingly.

This money would buy you more car from the UK.



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e46 328i SE Touring, 330Ci, 318Ci.
e39 523i SE.
e36 325i Coupe *2, 323i SE, 316iSE.
e30 325iSE 2dr, 320i Conv, 320i 2dr, 316i.


Posted By: Richie
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:16
Nice but hang on in there Kin for the E46 M3!!

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Posted By: Kin Mak
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:26
Had a second though and opinion(s) and unless he is going to offer me a bit of cash for the swap iy will be a no go. Ah we will see. For a bit mre I can get a 996.

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Posted By: Beemer Fan
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:46
The 964 was built when porsche had no cash and as a result corners were cut.. this is the most unreliable of recent 911's.. drive shafts being a common problem... I would look for a 993 if i were you.They are a world apart in reliability and handling terms, and of course looks... Actually i'd hang on to the m5 as it would have the 964 for breakfast!

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E46 M3
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Evo 9
HD Dyna Glide


Posted By: Beemer Fan
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:47
best change my signature or TJ will be looking for royalties!

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Posted By: ///M3Mick
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:50

Kin

That particular model of porsche is a bit of a handful.  A close relative has had two of those 964's (the last of the air cooled ones I think) and his were immaculate (with under 20k miles), and the bills are extremely steep.  Whatever you think of BMW servicing costs porsche is another leg up altogether.  I know you can get specialists that will do it cheaper but that is a high mileage car and even though it has been well maintained, you never know whats around the corner.

Another thing, the M5 is easier to drive faster on public roads, even though thats a 4wd model.

Save for a 993 or an E46 M3 if I wanted something a bit less saloon like than your current car.

Mick



Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:56

no royaltys required, Beemer Fan!

993s are honeys - that's what I'd go for.



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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: llatsni
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 06:58
I do love those transitional 911's, the newer shapes dont really do much for me. But I dont think its at all fair to compare it with the m5 tho - they are SO different in all respects; close to comparing a car with a motorbike IMHO!!!

That porsche has probably depreciated almost as much as it ever will - so you could get it for a year and see how the relationship goes??? Wont cost you all that much even with the higher servicing as the M5 would be depreciating a fair bit over the same period... Just a thought.

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1996 e34 525i SE Touring [uberwagon!]
1992 e36 325i Coupe [track car]
1998 e36 316i SE Saloon [sold... but missed]


Posted By: Fey!
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:10

Nobody else has mentioned it, so I'll probably be wrong, but how does it qualify as classic - it's only 17 years old.  I though classic was 20+?

Also, a classic policy would be likely to restrict your mileage.

Personally, I'd prefer the M5.  But I'm just odd.........



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Posted By: ///M3Mick
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:11

Originally posted by llatsni llatsni wrote:

I do love those transitional 911's, the newer shapes dont really do much for me. But I dont think its at all fair to compare it with the m5 tho - they are SO different in all respects; close to comparing a car with a motorbike IMHO!!!

That porsche has probably depreciated almost as much as it ever will - so you could get it for a year and see how the relationship goes??? Wont cost you all that much even with the higher servicing as the M5 would be depreciating a fair bit over the same period... Just a thought.

Paul

Just on the depreciation thing, thats not entirely true.  I know that when you look on carzone etc you will see that these cars seem to have a minimal value but actually finding a buyer it for it at that money is a different matter.

I know also that porsches are supposed to be bulletproof and will go forever if looked after correctly but a lot of people when buying them expect a low mileage example; the cars are so impractical for a lot of people they are often second cars so buyers come to expect one that has done certainly less than 5k miles per year of ownership.

At 120k I think this one falls into a category that would put a lot of potential buyers off so it might be difficult to shift if you needed to do it in a hurry.

Mick



Posted By: ludo
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:24

very exensive porsche, for that here I can get a 993 C4S with only 2/3 of the mileage!

Kin, small car: Mcoupe!!!



Posted By: T.J.
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:26

So in conclusion Kin, if ya want a change but love the practicality, get one of these:



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Mazda 6 MPS
S1 Elise 135 Sport
Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon
http://www.bmwcarclubireland.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3254">

Formerly E39 TDS, E36 M3, E36 328i, E34 525i, E34 518i


Posted By: Kin Mak
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:30
Naaa.... If i wanted to carry people around I will stick with the M5. Since my friends were not too keen when I was going to install a meter in the car I want to get a smaller car/coupe. 

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Posted By: BigPhil
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:31

Originally posted by Kin Mak Kin Mak wrote:

Owner of this car just emailed me to ask if I wanted to swap.

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=305598 - http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=305598

Classic insurance, smaller more fun car as I wanted, a bit old for my liking. Was going to go for a 993 or even a 996. What do you guys think.

I just had 3 friends in my car in the weekend driving them into town. For obviously put the foot down, hey had so much fun 2 of them asked me how much do I want for it. Can't do that in the Porsche tho. Decisions.

p.s. Also it means I can't hang with you guys no more.

You can get a decent porsche cheap these days.........sell your own car.........but 30 or 40k with it and you can get a nice clean, low 98 / 99 pork 911.  Perfect.



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997 C2 now.


Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:36
Originally posted by Kin Mak Kin Mak wrote:

Naaa.... If i wanted to carry people around I will stick with the M5. Since my friends were not too keen when I was going to install a meter in the car I want to get a smaller car/coupe. 


M3 CSL


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Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual


Posted By: Kin Mak
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:42
Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:



M3 CSL


Opps... I just stained my pants.


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Posted By: Fey!
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:43
How about a Lancia Integralle?   I know where there's one in a showroom....

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Posted By: llatsni
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:49
Originally posted by kbannon kbannon wrote:

M3 CSL


Theres a TASTY black one on autotrader.co.uk - a 2003 with only 11k miles for 38k sterling - but it would be easily 75k euro once the VRT is payed.

Paul

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1996 e34 525i SE Touring [uberwagon!]
1992 e36 325i Coupe [track car]
1998 e36 316i SE Saloon [sold... but missed]


Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 07:57
STATISTICAL CODE: 41485292
MAKE: BMW
MODEL: M3
VERSION: E46 CSL 02DR / SPORTS COUPE (NON-CONVERTIBLE) / MANUAL / PETROL ONLY /
MILEAGE: 11000 MILES
DATE OF FIRST REGISTRATION(MM/YY): AUGUST 2003
OPEN MARKET SELLING PRICE: €79844
RATE OF TAX:     30.0%
VEHICLE REGISTRATION TAX: €23953

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Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE
1997 E39 523i
2003 E39 525i Sport Individual


Posted By: llatsni
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 08:07
DOH!

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1996 e34 525i SE Touring [uberwagon!]
1992 e36 325i Coupe [track car]
1998 e36 316i SE Saloon [sold... but missed]


Posted By: Fey!
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 09:06

Not theone I mentioned, but same colour http:http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=103115&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Lancia%20Integrale%2C%20Year%3A%201992%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=41603131&CFTOKEN=73013080// - Integrale !

A couple of http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=search&sortby=YearDesc&maxrows=100&Make=BMW&MakeID=3&Model=M3&ModelID=32&GroupID=738:// - M3's .

 

 



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Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 10:08
you could pick one of these up in Italy (LHD) for anything between €10k and €20k



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Posted By: Fey!
Date Posted: 23-January-2006 at 10:48
I think that, like the e30 M3, the proper machine only comes in LHD!

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Posted By: US M3
Date Posted: 27-January-2006 at 20:48

A straight swap you would be mad, the M5 is a better car than that 964



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1990 E30 M3 (US MODEL)

2008 BMW 520D M SPORT



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