WTF???
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Topic: WTF???
Posted By: spokey
Subject: WTF???
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 04:23
Another great attempt to make a car "in-duh-vidual". 
Not from me he isn't.   More details http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4609352191 - here . ------------- Ciao, Spokey 
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I am always getting comments on how nice the car looks.Replies:
Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 04:36
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But wait, there's more! Why, dear Lord, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4609116622 - why ?  ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 04:45
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re advert #1:- The car is gloss black and has at some point in its life had a respray, however this also means that it is pretty rust free (unlike some for sale!). How does a respray mean its rust free? Its missing its centre caps also. re advert #2 - that bumper is  ------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 04:57
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Bumper looks ok to me Why? Because he can, it is after all a free country....... ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 05:41
Should have gone to Specsavers, Peter.  ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 06:00
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neither of them are cars I would want to own, but they look ok. both 15/16 years old, and still going ------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 10:10
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I don't much like the clear lights, but if you painted the indicators orange that E30 would do a very passable impersonation of a small E28. In fact I had to look twice to make sure it wasn't one. If I bought it, I'd probably find some translucent orange paint to make it look less ridiculous. But, as has already been said, that bumper is not nice. ------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk 
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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 13:01
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"e36 style front bumper worth £700 also have orginal MTECH Bumper" - so that's OK then! ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 18:21
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Why go to all that trouble to make the back end look like a Renault 9? -------------   
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Posted By: m3tiko
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 19:02
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Take a chill pill guys....whoever owns those cars like their mods.. maybe not to your taste but who made you cars style gurus??? -------------  |
Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 19:10
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Oh lordy.. I wouldn't put that bumper on my E36, never mind an E30 - isn't it an M3 one?
As for the rear lights.. least they aint Lexus ones  ------------- V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate J Reg Saab 900i 16v '63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe R reg Honda PC50 moped.. No BMW as yet... |
Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 19:43
THAT'S what I was thinking of...... it looked kinda familiar in a 'I know what it is but can't quite tell' sort of way. Cheers Horsey. ------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: m3tiko
Date Posted: 02-February-2006 at 20:15
So E46 M3's are styled all wrong..back to the drawing board ------------- |
Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 05:32
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No, the bumper works well on the more organically shaped E46,I think.
But it looks completely out of place on a boxy E30. I'd have to see it
on an E36 to see if it worked on an E36. I suspect it might work better
on that than the E30.
------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 05:44
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Don't get you guys. Who cares? someone has different taste to you. Wow! Personally I think the Z1 looks rubbish, so I wouldn't buy one. I wouldn't start a thread just to mock an owner though..............................although maybe I should, Spokey ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 06:02
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Why start a new thread -- there's one right here. I don't mind people fiddling with their cars (especially if they use Alpina bits!), but those two mods just deface the cars. I've even considered buying some of the modified cars I've seen on ebay, but I think the problem I have with both of these cars is that they are mixing effects from different generations, the first one looks a lot like an E28 light cluster to me and the second one has grafted an organic shape onto a boxy one -- it just doesn't work. I've often had doubts about the styling of the Z1, it looks a bit "hairdresser-y" to me. However, that all goes away when I get behind the wheel. Probably just like the owners of both these abominations.  Here's one that's been tastefully tarted up -- I quite like it! And one day, I will buy one.     ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 06:36
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Mmmmm, Z1 yes please. It now bears more of a resemblance to an E28, don't you think? This is how BMW should have made it look in the first place, imo.  ------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: Bigian
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 07:40
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that looks a lot better with the orange indicators the clear at the top didnt suit the car that is my opinion nice looking car though ------------- If you can't be good don't get caught -------------------------- |
Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 08:08
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That's the trouble though, tastefull is in the eye of the beholder.
------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 09:32
I've never ever heard someone say that an Alpina wasn't tasteful. ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 09:53
Some of the Alpinas from the 70s and 80s were far from tasteful. Very bright colours and stupid graphics. Like I said tasteful depends on who's looking ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 10:51
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In fact here are some, IMHO, less than tastefull Alpinas:
Horroble alloys, horrible front splitter and horrible graphics.
The 70s was a tastless decade and these two are just typical.
The last one is by far the least bad, but that front bumper looks poo as do the naff gold graphics I'm sure someone will disagree but then like I said beauty is in the eye of the beholder ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 10:56
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The alpina style graphics just look a bit naff on all apart from the late seventies and early eighties stuff like the E21, E12, E28 etc. All the later cars just don't suit it somehow. ------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 10:59
Philistine! Apostate! Infidel! I declare fatwa upon you! ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 11:00
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PS Guess what I'm doing to my E21 Baur when I can afford it?
------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 11:37
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They just look so 70's. The graphics really make the car look dated IMO. Spokey, why make your car look like something it's not? Isn't that the same as putting an M3 badge on a 318? ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 11:42
Who says I'm just doing the graphics?  You can still get a lot of the real Alpina bits, and I'm watching ebay all the time for engines and transmissions.  ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 11:43
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An E21 looks like it's from the seventies anyway (probably because it is), adding the graphics adds something to the car if you ask me. ------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 11:49
Well, duh! ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: popeye76s
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 16:16
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The Alpina stripes resemble individuality and distictivness, does the 3.0 CSL with the "M" stripes on it look ugly/dated, IMO no, more classic and a signal of its potential, likewise for the Alpina cars these arn't just another 3,5,7,X...series on the road. ultimately they are an option for the new buyer. Each to there own. I say yes to stripes, but no to "Lexus" lights, unless its a Lexus!
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Posted By: b7 eater
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 16:26
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/One-off-modified-B-M-W-M3-real-head-turner_W0QQitemZ4609594799QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/One-off-modified-B-M-W-M3-real-head-tu rner_W0QQitemZ4609594799QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Well as we are going for bad taste With Spokey on the Alpina e21s and e12s and e28s and e24s hmmmm
------------- E21 323i baur E34 M5 M3 GT |
Posted By: popeye76s
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 16:32
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/One-off-modified-B-M-W-M3-real-head-tu rner_W0QQitemZ4609594799QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/One-off-modified-B-M-W-M3-real-head-tu rner_W0QQitemZ4609594799QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Shouldn't that be stomach turner it looks like a wannabe rice racer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Popeye |
Posted By: b7 eater
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 16:34
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The questions are worth a read They say it all really !!!! ------------- E21 323i baur E34 M5 M3 GT |
Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 16:46
However a good design doesn't date. The E21 is quite a dated design but the alpina graphics just make it so much more so. I saw an old 6 series today and it still looked fresh. However if you'd stuck a silly alipna bodykit and some naff stripes on it would have instantly made it look dated. Sure alpina's are more individual than standard BMWs, but that doesn't make them stylish. BMW could do a limited run of 100 3 series with whale tail spoilers, 20" alloys, red crushed velvet seats and neons. They would be individual and rare but not stylish. I respect Alpina cars but if I wanted a faster BM I would get an M car. Alpinas are IMO visualy just a bit tacky ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 17:18
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Hmmm, I see your point Peter. I do like E24s very much, and I remember the abomination that Hammond created on Top Gear when he painted the white 635 up with blue and red stripes. Now that was bad taste. And as for that hideous spangly chav-tastic E36......
So why call it an M3 in the auction title then?
Of course. How silly of me. Are they actually M-Sport alloys though? Logic at its finest - 'Has M-Sport (sic) alloys, so becomes an M3 by association'. ------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 18:07
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Sorry - it still looks like a Mazda! ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 18:24
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Ah, but which came first? BMW Z1, designed in 1987, Mazda MX-5 designed in 1989. So the Mazda copied the Z1. The Z1 looks fantastic IMO.
------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 18:28
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hmmm - as in "Which came first? The chicken or the egg?" discuss......... ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 19:21
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Oi, cheeky!
------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: m3tiko
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 20:09
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She really looks and drives superb and turns heads and gets noticed wherever you go. Be prepared for people stopping you to take photos, it happens to me all the time.
Turns heads..nae wunder pal...People yelling and taking pics...thats to give to the style police
If I was to see that car at a glance..i'd swear I thought it was a vectra!!! Now each to their own but silly money spent and end up looking like that to me is a waste. MX-5 vs Z1...iconic maza wins hands down, not taking anything away from Z1's cos it opened the doors for the hot selling 3's and 4's. Alpina...engineered to high standards, nicest ones seen yet, one in gaydon and Mr Perrys holds its own as well. Looks on some are a bit tacky especially with stripes and all that pi$h. But then again, AC schnitz cars with stripes are a bit of an eye sore as well. Any car today for that matter with stripes is so old skool.. ------------- |
Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 21:23
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Prepare to pour vinigar into your eyes to take away the pain of seeing...
this... 
Chavtastic... Oh and read some of the replies to emails, so funny.. innit ------------- V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate J Reg Saab 900i 16v '63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe R reg Honda PC50 moped.. No BMW as yet... |
Posted By: spokey
Date Posted: 03-February-2006 at 22:52
How does that "not take anything away from the Z1"? ------------- Ciao, Spokey
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Posted By: m3tiko
Date Posted: 04-February-2006 at 08:27
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well...would you rather me say that Z1 is a sack of s**t...obsviously not cos it aint but in comparsion to mx-5 it is.
My words should've been"...cos it paved the way for the eventual Z3 and Z4 ------------- |
Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 04-February-2006 at 10:42
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Hardly. MX5 was designed with the help of IAD, a British design house, using the original Lotus Elan as its inspiration. Mazda's design team made a point of trying to re-create the spirit of the Elan, right down to the exhaust note, but with far more reliability than the Lotus ever had. They succeeded - and how. In 1989, the first UK ones came on the market at £14,295. Even now, those early ones are unmistakeable and still work for a living. The rest is history. -------------
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Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 04-February-2006 at 15:49
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The MX-5 is a fantastic piece of design, and I'm sure they in no way drew inspiration from the Z1 (where are the drop down doors for instance?), but it just lacks something. I've driven one and it's a great laugh, but for my money I like cars with a bit of personality, a bit of soul. Which is why I'd hand over my folding for a Z1 before an MX-5. ------------- 1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased) http://www.getfirefox.com - Get Firefox - Ditch Hopeless Inertnet Exploder http://www.doive.co.uk - www.doive.co.uk
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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 04-February-2006 at 16:37
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L oads O f T rouble U sually S erious
but worth it ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 05-February-2006 at 06:53
I though the mazda copied the MG exhaust note. ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |